Should Churches Teach On Sex ?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Is bad sex the reason for most broken marriages? Or could it be bad finances, since I believe that is the #1 cause for divorce.

Absolutely not. Not anymore the reason good sex makes a good marriage - - it takes more than that.

That's why I think the thread should be titled Should Churches Teach Relationships to include, sex, finances, etc.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

I would bet it's pornography...people looking elsewhere. I don't think you will find the numbers or people to admit that, but I have a feeling this might be the number 1 cause now...got that from Dobson. Oh, and btw, I think its crept into the church too!!!!

I think it's plowed its way into the church!

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think it's plowed its way into the church!

including ministry!!!! This is scary!

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by SarahElizabeth

I think the older women should teach the younger women and the older men should teach the younger men on this subject. Just my opinion. ...or Dr. Phil could come for general conference or at the state campmeetings and give everyone one big seminar...JUST kidding on the latter comment.

Sis. Sarah Elizabeth,

I think you will find the bolded to be biblical. Not all older women are

qualified to teach when they have been married numerous times. Why

would anyone even consider ask someone under those conditions.

The apostle Paul instructed young Timothy as to some do's and don'ts.

Paul was fathering him in the gospel. Timothy's dad was a greek and was

not a believer. His grandmother and mother were believers and Paul had

watched their faithfulness. He knew who had raised Timothy. He knew

that he had from a child he had known the holy scriptures, which were able

to make him wise unto salvation, through faith which was in Christ Jesus.

There is such a need for teaching, the older to the younger. Jesus called

that generation in which he was on earth, an untoward (not easily guided)

generation. Solomon was given wisdom, but his example before his son,

young Rehoboam was certainly lacking as his son watched many strange

women to turn his dad's heart away from the One True God. And when a

older faithful servant of Solomon's tried to tell him what the older faithful

wanted, he inquired of the young men and listened to them instead. It

split the kingdom. Ten and two. Judah and Isreal became two kingdoms.

There is a need for teachers and there is a desperated need for examples

of what is right. God is the God of Righteousness.

Blessings,

Falla39

[ManOfWord]

When I do pre-marital counselling, I deal with important issues like finances, decision making, leaving and cleaving, personality types, (sorry Chan) etc. I talk about sex minimally and basically deal with the idea that their sex life is personal and that no pastor has a right to, barge in as it were, into the couple's bedroom with specific questioning and detailed instructions. No, I don't use the "dolls."

I remember a certain District Official who had a habit of asking the ministers in his section specifics of their sex life. I always thought this was really twisted. I wasn't in this section and had I been asked, I would have politely told him that it was personal and that I NEVER discuss those issues with anyone.

I am far more concerned about a couple's relationship with each other than I am about their sex life. I have found that the sex life pretty much takes care of itself if the relationships are intact.

[Tina]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I have to wonder if this is really the calling of the church or not??

We have a great class at our church that is for married couples. We have a great minister and his wife that teach this class. They have given us more encouragement as a married couple-- and I think it is wonderful that this is offered in church. They also do premarital counseling as well. I wish there HAD been this type of class available to us when we were first married 18 years ago. We've been in this class for 6 months, and have picked up on a LOT of things that have made our relationship better. It has also done wonders in the "communication" area too. My hubby has always been one that would always clam up and not talk. He's getting better about communicating with me now. I think this marriage class had a LOT to do with that. I am very thankful that it's available in our church.

[Monkeyman]

So having said that, if couples are guided and counseled, they have a good start and hopefully won't be looking outwards then creating unrealistic expectations.....

[Subdued]

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

After the thread last week I will never look at red spike heels and wheelchairs the same way.


Can we get a couple new smileys someone?? One in a wheelchair and another with red lipstick and red spikes??

Even better - if we could possibly combine the two!! SWEET!

Originally Posted by tamor

Give The Mrs time. I'll bet she can come up with something!

Okay, I found the wheelchair:

The red shoes:



And the red lips:



Just not all in one.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

So having said that, if couples are guided and counseled, they have a good start and hopefully won't be looking outwards then creating unrealistic expectations.....

I believe this too. There are enough pressures in marriage that trying to "wing" it on your own without some instruction just starts you with a handicap.

Also, with divorce rate as it is now, there needs to be some understanding of the commitment that is made when being married. The more info you can pump into newly married couples and refresher courses throughout, the better.

Yes, I'm divorced and probably sounds odd coming from me.