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Old 06-30-2015, 11:18 PM
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She must use her husbands Bible, sorry, no false translation. I have no problems with my technique AT ALL.
No, I'm saying that her husband wants to allow his wife to use the translation she is comfortable with. She doesn't like the Elizabethan, her husband knows this, so you would allow her to continue to read her NIV.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:19 PM
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I can teach all 10 lessons and not read a single verse..they do ALL the reading, even the entire crucifixion scene!!!


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Old 06-30-2015, 11:19 PM
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Except me.....
Why, you are reading, the are following along?

Everything should be cool?
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Tk...it is right on the SFT #1 chart. It is what I teach them to use....I dont teach them the Greek word you want me to say to them because we all speak English. We just use the verses and analogies....It is right on the baptismal page of the chart...check it out....page 41

http://www.angelfire.com/bc/cordle/lesson07.html
Sean, help me out here. You admittedly teach from the SFT charts, yet you claim it is wrong to define the English words from the Greek, am I right on this? So what do you do when you get to your SFT Lesson 6 Page 31? Look at: #4 Dual Nature of God; As a Man; Born a Baby, or Son. That subheading uses Matthew 1:23-25. In case your SFT chart isn't handy, let me refresh your memory on what Matthew 1:23 says.
(Matthew 1:23 KJV) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
So, why am I bringing this up? Well, "Emmanuel" is the Greek word for the OT Immanuel, as found in Isaiah 7:14. If you look in Matthew 1:23, the writer defines for the reader what that Greek word meant.

So, here are my questions:

First, you say it's wrong to define the Bible with Greek definitions, so was the writer of Matthew 1:23 in error for doing that?

Second, since you feel it is such a grave sin to use Greek definitions to explain the meanings of biblical words, how can YOU use Matthew 1:23 in your lessons without being a hypocrite?
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Did you see this?
I thought you did all the reading, and they followed along. You have them read so therefore the sister would have to get rid of the NIV to make you happy.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:24 PM
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Sean, help me out here. You admittedly teach from the SFT charts, yet you claim it is wrong to define the English words from the Greek, am I right on this? So what do you do when you get to your SFT Lesson 6 Page 31? Look at: #4 Dual Nature of God; As a Man; Born a Baby, or Son. That subheading uses Matthew 1:23-25. In case your SFT chart isn't handy, let me refresh your memory on what Matthew 1:23 says.
(Matthew 1:23 KJV) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
So, why am I bringing this up? Well, "Emmanuel" is the Greek word for the OT Immanuel, as found in Isaiah 7:14. If you look in Matthew 1:23, the writer defines for the reader what that Greek word meant.

So, here are my questions:

First, you say it's wrong to define the Bible with Greek definitions, so was the writer of Matthew 1:23 in error for doing that? No he already did it for us.(he is the author)

Second, since you feel it is such a grave sin to use Greek definitions to explain the meanings of biblical words, how can YOU use Matthew 1:23 in your lessons without being a hypocrite?
(I dont think it a sin TK, I think it is STUPID!!!LOL(teaching a language that we cannot even recite the alphabet from)
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:25 PM
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I thought you did all the reading, and they followed along. You have them read so therefore the sister would have to get rid of the NIV to make you happy.



NO, No No, No. I do the narration, they do the reading...I like to steer them into TEACHING someday!
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:26 PM
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They are fired up even as SINNERS!
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:28 PM
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Then they get saved and join my TEACHER TRAINING class to see how I did it for them!
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