FBI Paid Muslims to Commit Acts of Terror

[n david]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Jesus said that if you look with lust upon a woman, you have already committed adultery with her.

it is the intent of the heart, where the crime starts.

These guys lacked the means to get to first base with any terrorism plot, but in their heart they had already committed terrorism.
The FBI just gave them a little help to get to first base with the lady, err. I mean plot.

Our laws aren't based on the Bible. Sorry, they're just not. You can't say just because they made a threat, they would follow through with it.

I've made a few threats against people growing up as a teenager. Most of it was big mouthed bravado, with no intention of actually doing anything. And most of those threats were made in the company of my 3 best friends, who weighed about 280lbs + each and were between 6'2" and 6'4". I, on the other hand, was 5'9" and 130 if soaking wet, wearing a coogi sweater.

You don't think some of these Muslims talk big to impress friends, but don't actually have the guts or plans to actually do anything?

Again, the mere mention of a threat doesn't mean anything. Investigate the threat, but for goodness sake, don't give them money and weapons to try and complete the act.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Do you want someone else to give these "innocent" citizens the money and weapons?

Do you want to wait and see if they will do anything?

As I already stated, investigate the threat; keep tabs on the suspect. I don't believe the FBI should be coercing them into doing something the majority of these guys wouldn't actually do.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Ever wonder why the FBI has not approached you to do stupidity and carnage? Maybe it is because they would be wasting their time to try to convince you to do something you would NEVER do.

I'm not Muslim. Nor am I some crazed anti-government wacko like McVeigh.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

As I already stated, investigate the threat; keep tabs on the suspect. I don't believe the FBI should be coercing them into doing something the majority of these guys wouldn't actually do.


I'm not Muslim. Nor am I some crazed anti-government wacko like McVeigh.

Well I am sure the FBI hasn't approached EVERY American Muslim or even most Muslims for that matter.

I am conflicted about it too-- but the fact that these people made the decision to violently act on their bad feelings towards America leaves no doubt in my mind that they would have been convinced by any other organization also.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Well I am sure the FBI hasn't approached EVERY American Muslim or even most Muslims for that matter.

I am conflicted about it too-- but the fact that these people made the decision to violently act on their bad feelings towards America leaving no doubt in my mind that they would have been convinced by any other organization also.

Do you doubt this?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Well I am sure the FBI hasn't approached EVERY American Muslim or even most Muslims for that matter.

I am conflicted about it too-- but the fact that these people made the decision to violently act on their bad feelings towards America leaves no doubt in my mind that they would have been convinced by any other organization also.

Obviously the FBI hasn't approached every Muslim, that would be impossible. The report notes they target "vulnerable people, with mental problems or low intelligence."

Here's the thing, I don't know that they never would have found someone else. And you can't say there's no doubt they would have found someone else either. All we do know is the FBI profiled them, found the most vulnerable, then contacted them, gave them the plan and what was needed, and (in some cases) paid them to put their words into actions.

I'm just not for turning a loudmouth threat maker into an actual terrorist. That's like giving money and guns to a person who's threatened to shoot someone. More than likely it's just bravado and they won't ever do it. It's insane.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by n david

I'm just not for turning a loudmouth threat maker into an actual terrorist. That's like giving money and guns to a person who's threatened to shoot someone. More than likely it's just bravado and they won't ever do it. It's insane.

It is a crime to threaten the President of the United States, if you do not believe me just send a threat to the President and you will soon be visited by an army of secret service agents.

If it is a crime to threaten the president, then it should also be a crime to threaten the United States.

[n david]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

It is a crime to threaten the President of the United States, if you do not believe me just send a threat to the President and you will soon be visited by an army of secret service agents.

I know this. And for the third or fourth time now....by all means investigate the THREATS! But don't give money, weapons and a plan. Was I not clear about that? Investigate the threats. Full investigation. But don't give them incentive and the means to pull off the threat.

I don't see the secret service out there giving weapons to someone threatening the President. Why not? Because it's insane and would be stupid to do such a thing!

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

If it is a crime to threaten the president, then it should also be a crime to threaten the United States.

It is, which is why...(5 times) they should investigate the threat.

Just don't give weapons and money as an incentive to put their words to actions.

Can I be any clearer?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

I know this. And for the third or fourth time now....by all means investigate the THREATS! But don't give money, weapons and a plan. Was I not clear about that? Investigate the threats. Full investigation. But don't give them incentive and the means to pull off the threat.

I don't see the secret service out there giving weapons to someone threatening the President. Why not? Because it's insane and would be stupid to do such a thing!


It is, which is why...(5 times) they should investigate the threat.

Just don't give weapons and money as an incentive to put their words to actions.

Can I be any clearer?

I don't understand why you would be against the FBI investigating the threat. Maybe you should be a little more clear about what you would like the FBI to do.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Our laws aren't based on the Bible. Sorry, they're just not.

Care to elaborate?

[KeptByTheWord]

I believe Alex Jones has been saying this for years, that the FBI actually uses people as false flags in order to achieve an even uglier agenda that they have, which really can be translated into job security for them. The fact that there is evidence now that this is true is quite alarming.