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Old 05-10-2014, 08:01 AM
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Obedience to the Faith

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for His name.

Paul explicitly demonstrates that grace is received FOR obedience to the faith. Is it because of obedience to the faith or received in order to produce obedience to the faith?

There are three kinds if works that men tend to attempt to produce salvation. Keeping the law of Moses, human merit, and obedience to God. The following scripture demonstrates that grace is received for obedience to the faith.

James demonstrates that a man is 'Justified by works and not by faith alone'. What kind of work justifies a man. It is not Human merit nor is it the keeping of the Law of Moses. A man is justified and saved by the 'work' if you will, of obedience to the faith!
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:04 AM
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Romans 1:5 through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations,
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:06 AM
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Romans 1:5 And now, through Christ, all the kindness of God has been poured out upon us undeserving sinners; and now he is sending us out around the world to tell all people everywhere the great things God has done for them, so that they, too, will believe and obey him.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:07 AM
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Romans 1:5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:08 AM
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Romans 1:5 Through Christ, God has given us the privilege and authority as apostles to tell Gentiles everywhere what God has done for them, so that they will believe and obey him, bringing glory to his name.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:20 AM
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This is the correct focus.

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Old 05-10-2014, 11:34 AM
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Grace is simple - it is Jesus. The gift of God to mankind - Jesus - grace.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:13 PM
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We are saved by Grace, which is received through faith, which is demonstrated by works. No works=no faith. Lack of faith rejects grace.
Even when the Law of Moses was still in place, God was looking for obedience above all else.
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We are saved by Grace, which is received through faith, which is demonstrated by works. No works=no faith. Lack of faith rejects grace.
Even when the Law of Moses was still in place, God was looking for obedience above all else.
Let me show you I'm saved as I speak in tongues?
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Re: Obedience to the Faith

For the promise in unto you and you children and all who are afar off.
The promise was given, and ater the passover He told them to wait in Jerusalem and receive the promise. As they were filled with the HG, God gave them a sign, and they began to speak with tongues. The same happened with the gentiles who received the promise by faith, they also began to speak in tongues. Later on the Apostle would write to them and tell them that without the Spirit of God, they were none of His. The Word of God is the seed of faith, when you plant it in your heart, it springs up to everlasting life, and the evidence is for all to see.
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