What I'm Learning From Islam:

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Exactly. Ritualism doesn't = spirituality or holiness, which is why God overturned the Old Covenant with the New one. Rituals did nothing for the heart.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Muslims also do a better job of blowing themselves up. whats you point other than to be nasty toward OPs?


This aint rocket science. Here oh Israel the Lord OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.

period. end of story.

[Luke]

pbuh = peace be upon him

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

I'm not well informed about what Muslims mean when they say PBUH, but I do see the roughly analogous aspect of how Catholics label the pope "His Holyness" yet do not regard him as divine at all--merely god's divine infallible messenger, which apparently counts as praiseworthy.

I did google research.

it is "Peace Be Upon Him".


It is an "honorific" but more intense than the title "his holiness".

It is an identifier. Muslims use that to speak blessing upon Allahs greatest prophet…

I am not sure why any Christian would offer the blessing upon m’mud

[Ferd]

One more thing.... just in case some some believers are reading.

Muhammad was a genocidal pedifile. his book is a commandment to KILL.

[MarcBee]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Muslims also do a better job of blowing themselves up.

And reportedly in Roman era, Christians also sacrificed themselves for the worthy cause of "their witness." Fast forward some centuries later, where lesser-enlightened Christians supposedly slaughtered those who didn't believe as they did. And that's why I specified "not trying to make any other point than.....blah, blah, blah."

Originally Posted by Ferd

whats you point other than to be nasty toward OPs?

Not nasty. I was wondering if anyone HERE could at least give credit to Islam for being a little bit more transparently monotheistic than what is implied by 1 John5:7 (whether or not you see see that verse as justifying trinitarianism, or rather prefer to square it with Oneness, given enough words and time to explain.) Oneness DOES requires a lot of explanation to square with the "three-ness" aspect of god, just as trinitarianism requires volumes of explanation to square with the otherwise common meaning of "ONE."

period. end of story.

Okay!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

And reportedly in Roman era, Christians also sacrificed themselves for the worthy cause of "their witness." Fast forward some centuries later, where lesser-enlightened Christians supposedly slaughtered those who didn't believe as they did. And that's why I specified "not trying to make any other point than.....blah, blah, blah."




Not nasty. I was wondering if anyone HERE could at least give credit to Islam for being a little bit more transparently monotheistic than what is implied by 1 John5:7 (whether or not you see see that verse as justifying trinitarianism, or rather prefer to square it with Oneness, given enough words and time to explain.) Oneness DOES requires a lot of explanation to square with the "three-ness" aspect of god, just as trinitarianism requires volumes of explanation to square with the otherwise common meaning of "ONE."




Okay!

to answer your question. NO. being a believer in a single god that does not exist is not being transparently monotheistic. It means your lost and damned to hell and in the case of islam, following a bloody religion that kills people by demand of holy writ TODAY.

Not 500 years ago.

[Luke]

Marcbee there is at least a sight difference in a person being willing to die for what they believe in as opposed to walking into a crowd and blowing yourself up so as to assure your place in heaven.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

what does

Mohamed (PBUH)
mean?

It means, "Peace be upon him". I simply offered it out of respect should any Muslims read this thread.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Aquila,
I think that even in praying once a day, we have to be careful not to go through the motions. I think it would be safe to assume, as human beings, that not all Muslims praying three times a day are focusing on a heartfelt prayer anymore than a Catholic picking up a rosary and reciting the Lord's Prayer. Repetitious prayer becomes just that - repetition.

Amen. A focused time of formal prayer can become repetition. There are extremes in both directions. We can neglect more formal and focused prayer to the point that we need to be reminded of it's value... or we can devoutly pray with focused and formal prayers so often that we need to be reminded of it's value and to actually meditate on the words spoken.

Great point.