Were you trying to make a point for someone else then? If so what was it?
Yes, I was. It's a weak point, though, I have to admit. There isn't much agreement on what things are or are not sins, wouldn't you agree? Well, it's debatable how much agreement, I suppose, but since it is not universally agreed upon (to whatever extent), it must be true that some lists are wrong. Maybe all of them are wrong. Regardless, nobody can possibly know (IMO) if their own list is correct, in God's view. Some people are sinning without knowing it, and some people think they are forbidden from doing somethings that God couldn't care less about.
So, anyway, yeah. That's it. Not that it negates M the D's post. Just that it makes it impossible to follow, precisely, and know that you are not disfellowshipping the right set of people. That's all.
But like I said, it wasn't for you. You never get my points.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Yes, I was. It's a weak point, though, I have to admit. There isn't much agreement on what things are or are not sins, wouldn't you agree? Well, it's debatable how much agreement, I suppose, but since it is not universally agreed upon (to whatever extent), it must be true that some lists are wrong. Maybe all of them are wrong. Regardless, nobody can possibly know (IMO) if their own list is correct, in God's view. Some people are sinning without knowing it, and some people think they are forbidden from doing somethings that God couldn't care less about.
So, anyway, yeah. That's it. Not that it negates M the D's post. Just that it makes it impossible to follow, precisely, and know that you are not disfellowshipping the right set of people. That's all.
But like I said, it wasn't for you. You never get my points.
You didn't make a point, until now, you simply just stated the obvious which isn't a point.
That's like saying the Sun is bright...duh! But do you have a point?
Here's an idea...let's go by what the bible says? Maybe some disagree because of personal agendas
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Thoughts?
I know nothing more about this situation or Alan Chambers than this press release you have posted here.
However reading between the lines I am guessing that Alan Chambers is gay and has now lost his struggle to become heterosexual so is abandoning the ministry.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Yes, I was. It's a weak point, though, I have to admit. There isn't much agreement on what things are or are not sins, wouldn't you agree? Well, it's debatable how much agreement, I suppose, but since it is not universally agreed upon (to whatever extent), it must be true that some lists are wrong. Maybe all of them are wrong. Regardless, nobody can possibly know (IMO) if their own list is correct, in God's view. Some people are sinning without knowing it, and some people think they are forbidden from doing somethings that God couldn't care less about. 
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