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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The clause from the AOF that all UPCI ministers attest to in the AS:
We wholeheartedly disapprove of our people indulging in any activities which are not conducive to good Christianity and godly living, such as theaters, dances, mixed bathing or swimming, women cutting their hair, make-up, any apparel that immodestly exposes the body, all worldly sports and amusements, and unwholesome radio programs and music. Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes. We admonish all of our people to refrain from any of these practices in the interest of spiritual progress and the soon coming of the Lord for His church
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
This is the kicker ... here is the purpose of the ban on TV ....
Are these evils not displayed on the internet???? There isn't a ban because of a tuner ... or a receiver that receives television frequencies ...
the purpose of the ban is because that it displays THESE EVILS ... yet the logic doesn't apply to a tv type program transmitted on a DVD player or a computer...????
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DA - I agree. If the internet had been around when the television prohibition was passed, it too would have been banned along with television.
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Ain't NOTHING gonna happen wait-watch and see. If it does I will be shocked.
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From what I understand something already happened . . . the minister in question removed the offending comments from off the website. Not sure if he got rid of his television or handed in his resignation though.
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
This kind of thing is utterly disappointing to those who try to be honorable and make their word worth something.
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Make all the excuses you want.
A lie is a lie is a lie.
You are looking at the difference between what is clearly an interpretation vs. a blatant violation.
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Coonskinner . . . You never answered a post of mine from way back in the early pages of this thread.
You know that recently there was a certain DS in a district not far from your own who wrote a grandios story about a Jewish Revival. It kept getting bigger and bigger. Then people started asking questions because of contradictions. It ended up Bishop Haney had to send a committee to investigate this minister's claims and found out he was flat out LYING.
The committee caught this minister in several lies during their investigation, yet he STILL, to this day, is adamant and refuses to admit any wrongdoing; refuses to apologize for the lies he's been caught in; has rebelled against the leadership at HQ; is unrepentant and refuses any offers of help given him.
Bishop Haney even recently sent out a letter, already mentioned in another thread a few weeks ago, that had a paragraph calling the report a lie (in effect also calling the DS a liar).
Yet just last week, this ex-DS was voted in as a Presbyter.
How is it that this man is able to keep his license, continue pastoring and was able to be voted back into office after all this?
And yet this honest minister from Texas is being raked over the coals over something to stupid as owning a television and being open about it.
And before anyone says anything about signing the AS and still having one . . . no one knows for sure what he included with the signature. I know many ministers who sign the AS, but include a statement of protest over the television clause. So it could very well be that this minister has been very open about having the television and has not lied about it.
It burns me . . . we'll yank a ministers license over television; prohibit them from license over adultery or divorce . . . yet this recent well-documented minister is still allowed to hold license and district office.
I know, this could be deemed as "tearing down of the ministry." But I disagree. The ministry is being torn down, not from my statements bringing this in the open, but by the hypocrisy of accepting lying ministers like this while yet unjustly bashing and condemning honest ministers over television.
JMO
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