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Old 05-24-2007, 08:18 AM
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I wonder if it is paint instead of a tattoo?
That's what it looks like to me.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:33 AM
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That's what it looks like to me.
that would kinda make this a moot point.

I do find it funny that Danial has to find extremes to try to make his points seem valid.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:53 AM
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that would kinda make this a moot point.

I do find it funny that Danial has to find extremes to try to make his points seem valid.
Now this is a valid point.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:11 AM
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To look at that just gives me the willies. It's unearthly, it's unpleasant, it's weird and it comes from a spirit and a place that I want no part of.

What's sad is that the disfigurement is so totally severe and all encompassing that I don't know how he could ever get rid of it.

We've had guys come into church and get saved with tattoos on their arms that couldn't be removed and they were sensitive enough and even embarassed by it after they were born again to the point where they'd keep covered up for the most part.

Occasionally, if they wore a Tshirt or short sleeve shirt when they were out working or whatever then the tattoos were visible and I'd look at it and think about the grace and mercy of God and how that He can change a life so dramatically and radically and just be amazed by that all over again.

This guy with the kind of disfigurement he's undergone could never do that. Even if he did come to Christ and get born again he'd have to look like that the rest of his life and how gross!

Personally, I wouldn't be interested in having him on my platform no matter if he did get saved and had a testimony. There are lots of people who have amazing stories to tell of how God saved them and what He delivered them from without having to have that on display.

JMO. Now stone me if you like ... or set me straight, whatever .... but these are my honest feelings.
In the Old Testament, there were certain physical infirmities that prohibited a man from serving in some areas of priesthood.

This is another question designed for one thing and one thing only--to try and find some extreme, far out example to try and paint Apostolic people as unmerciful and unloving.

There are some choices we make in life that have consequences.

The girl who has a child out of wedlock doesn't get out of having to raise it just because she prays through.

Sin carries both an eternal and temporal price tag.

The etrnal price of every sin is the same; the temporal price sometimes varies.

This man is too big a distraction and should not be allowed in platform ministry.

I daresay even most denominational people would understand that.

I agree with Felicity.

And you are wasting your time trying to lay a guilt trip on me for my opinion.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:23 AM
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That's what it looks like to me.
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that would kinda make this a moot point.

I do find it funny that Danial has to find extremes to try to make his points seem valid.
No ... it's definitely a tattoo ... he's a college professor ....

http://www.dailylobo.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=d0381c0d-6042-4294-9cbe-7c43d8501d46

I hope it has provoked you to think ....
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:28 AM
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In the Old Testament, there were certain physical infirmities that prohibited a man from serving in some areas of priesthood.

This is another question designed for one thing and one thing only--to try and find some extreme, far out example to try and paint Apostolic people as unmerciful and unloving.

There are some choices we make in life that have consequences.

The girl who has a child out of wedlock doesn't get out of having to raise it just because she prays through.

Sin carries both an eternal and temporal price tag.

The etrnal price of every sin is the same; the temporal price sometimes varies.

This man is too big a distraction and should not be allowed in platform ministry.

I daresay even most denominational people would understand that.

I agree with Felicity.

And you are wasting your time trying to lay a guilt trip on me for my opinion.
Your callous answers don't surprise me ... they are as cookie-cutter as your marginal religious world-view .....

I am aware there are consequences for our actions ... making some sins ... resonate more among us.

I would hate to be the one responsible for this man's soul based on my prejudices. Nuff said.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:29 AM
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Your callous answers don't surprise me ... they are as cookie-cutter as your marginal religious world-view .....

I am aware there are consequences for our actions ... making some sins ... resonate more among us.

I would hate to be the one responsible for this man's soul based on my prejudices. Nuff said.

Responsible for his soul?

Of course he can be saved.

But he has disqualified himself from certain positions of leadership.

That's not callous; that is just good sense.

Paint it anyway you like.

You are all wet on this and you know it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:31 AM
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Responsible for his soul?

Of course he can be saved.

But he has disqualified himself from certain positions of leadership.

That's not callous; that is just good sense.

Paint it anyway you like.

You are all wet on this and you know it.
Coming from a culture that is insatiably concerned with the outward .... I question the "good sense" .... it's more of the same checklists.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:33 AM
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Coming from a culture that is insatiably concerned with the outward .... I question the "good sense" .... it's more of the same checklists.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:34 AM
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That man has disfigured himself so excessively that he would be a major distraction to the vast majority of people.

You know this as well as anyone of the rest of us do.

I don't think I will dignify this foolishness by continuing to hash out such a ridiculous idea with you.
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