Disturbing hair story

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Are you saying these folks did not know the difference in the HG and emotion felt at a ball game? And I was called a blasphemer for doubting Trinitarians?

No sir. Just saying Emotion is not always proof something is of the Lord...

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The Bible does clearly state it is her glory. GOD said that not Sis. Lumpkin or RR or the UPC or an ultra-con. God said if a woman have long hair it is a glory to her. If a lady though her consecration to God preserves the glory why would the Lord honor that dedication with a witness of His Spirit. Paul was correct for saying in the last days there would be "mockers and dispisers of those that are good." And some are on here.

Glory does not equal salvation. Also thou shalt have no other God! Hair and the Glory can be a standin for the actual Glory of God.

It is a glory to her. That does not seem like salvation or heaven and hell issue....

Also why can a woman have Glory to her and have this be consecration to God.

What is a man's glory?

Why one would have Glory and not the other?

On the idea of a woman's hair.

I come down on the right to choose......

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Maple Leaf it has been MY experience and we can only judge personally from that; Calvary-the blood-redemption-the supreme sacrifice-incarnation-resurrection-the atonement-has been the theme of the preaching I have heard all my life. It is the core of my preaching and the preaching I hear on a normal basis. When a sinner comes I preach about God's love proven at Calvary and the redemtvie blood that is the only prescription that will heal man's sick soul however it takes place in this dispensation in obeying the gospel thus Acts 2:38. The blood purchased that-Calvary made provision for that-my wonderment is why we would believe it would offend God with what He provided? Our salvation is ultimately based on OUR acceptance and obedience to the gospel not in a void of Calvary but BECAUSE of Calvary. God is NOT saying mankind WITHOUT HIS COPERATION! He is not just bestowing salvation on the masses without their obedience. God has done His part which is about 99% of the deal why think it is strange for man to do his 1%?

Excellent comments Pastor Epley. (Again, I would have to add some qualifiers for complete agreement.)

My hope is that every preacher would join you in making the Cross a focus of their preaching.

My concern is that the rank and file are joining with Sis. Rhoni in the confession that their salvation is based on my . . . . Faith that looks to the altar and the water is misplaced, in my opinion.

I am afraid that many Oneness Pentecostals would answer the proverbial question, "Why would God allow you into Heaven?" much different than the Apostle Paul.

Our faith must be based on His work, not our own.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Glory does not equal salvation. Also thou shalt have no other God! Hair and the Glory can be a standin for the actual Glory of God.

It is a glory to her. That does not seem like salvation or heaven and hell issue....

On the idea of a woman's hair.

I come down on the right to choose......

Right to choose whether to reject or accept the glory GOD gave to a woman?????

Why would someone take away something God said was their glory??? Are they saying I don't believe what God said or I reject what God said or I am wiser than God??????

Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I read this on someone's EC page.



Someone please tell me this doctrine isn't being preached all over the UPC still today.

This sound like a cult!

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Excellent comments Pastor Epley. (Again, I would have to add some qualifiers for complete agreement.)

My hope is that every preacher would join you in making the Cross a focus of their preaching.

My concern is that the rank and file are joining with Sis. Rhoni in the confession that their salvation is based on my . . . . Faith that looks to the altar and the water is misplaced, in my opinion.

I am afraid that many Oneness Pentecostals would answer the proverbial question, "Why would God allow you into Heaven?" much different than the Apostle Paul.

Our faith must be based on His work, not our own.

Huh? What? Your premise is locked in works.

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Magic hair!!!!!!

Ron can I get her in a dizziest blond as well?????

[Thad]

Heavenlyone,


Being Judgemental is a sin too. don't forget that.

you need to practice what you preach sister

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Huh? What? Your premise is locked in works.

Brother Neckstadt

I apologize for not being able to give an answer to your post.

I've no idea at all what you're trying to say.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Right to choose whether to reject or accept the glory GOD gave to a woman?????

Why would someone take away something God said was their glory??? Are they saying I don't believe what God said or I reject what God said or I am wiser than God??????

Please enlighten us.

Is it not her Glory? Why is it God's Glory? How does man achieve this Glory? If this Glory is to be tied to salvation?

Her Glory in a literal sense is her hair. Not God's Glory?