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The cheribims are saying, "Holy, Holy, Holy" into God in Heaven....Are they praising an outward standard? Ya just can't see Holiness. So why do we keep insisting that we discuss it in terms of something Macy's, JC Penny's or Pattern 3728 McCalls is responsible for? Guess we need to highly esteem that assembly line worker who makes those long sleeves. Just kidding with ya. ....Doesn't anyone miss me when I am not here?

[Scott Hutchinson]

If folks have a healthy relationship with Jesus Christ and follow His voice He'll lead them into everything decent and Holy.

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

If folks have a healthy relationship with Jesus Christ and follow His voice He'll lead them into everything decent and Holy.

That is right where it starts...and that is right where it will end!

[Papabear]

It all begins in the presence of the Lord...

But the Prescense of the Lord has always sent the men out with directions and distinctions.

What happened to Moses after 40 days in the Glory of God?

Can you say 10 Commandments?

Anyone who spends time in the precense of God, will walk away with personal consecrations and standards of excellence.

This lazy generation that wants to TIVO thier Holiness Preferences and DVR thier consecrations is just a modern day deception that fulfills the prophecy of scripture.

Not one for copying and pasting scripture.... but many in the POST APOSTOLIC Group of People that have representation on this board fulfills the scriptures in part and sadly some completely.

2 Timothy 3:1-13
(1) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
(2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
(8) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
(9) But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
(10) But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
(11) Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
(12) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
(13) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Papabear

It all begins in the presence of the Lord...

But the Prescense of the Lord has always sent the men out with directions and distinctions.

What happened to Moses after 40 days in the Glory of God?

Can you say 10 Commandments?

Anyone who spends time in the precense of God, will walk away with personal consecrations and standards of excellence.

This lazy generation that wants to TIVO thier Holiness Preferences and DVR thier consecrations is just a modern day deception that fulfills the prophecy of scripture.

Not one for copying and pasting scripture.... but many in the POST APOSTOLIC Group of People that have representation on this board fulfills the scriptures in part and sadly some completely.

2 Timothy 3:1-13
(1) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
(2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
(8) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
(9) But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
(10) But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
(11) Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
(12) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
(13) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

They're you have it AFFers ... the UC view of you.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Papabear

Anyone who spends time in the precense of God, will walk away with personal consecrations and standards of excellence.

I agree with this pretty much. I'm not exactly sure though what you mean by "standards of excellence". Could you clarify a bit for me?

This lazy generation that wants to TIVO thier Holiness Preferences and DVR thier consecrations is just a modern day deception that fulfills the prophecy of scripture.

What does TIVO and DVR mean?

[ManOfWord]

I believe in true holiness because it is right. Being separated is what God requires of His people-He always has.

"Standards" holiness has produced nothing and never will except an exclusive group of folks who believe that they are chosen and that their appearance will produce revival. It is unfortunate, indeed, that when the call for holiness goes forth, at least in Apostolic circles, it is rarely differentiated from the way a person LOOKS. Those LOOKS are defined by the "holiness" group and many times anyone outside the group is not considered holy.

[Papabear]

Not an UCer. This is how a MCer.

But, This is how I read many of the Anti Standard/distinction/Apostolic Doc. that is very prevalent here.

That would of course would not be everyone... but if the shoe fits, don't blame me.

[Papabear]

Well MOW,

Not sure if the Anti Standard group can point to some incredible move of God that they say the "legalistic" way was holding them back from.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I believe in true holiness because it is right. Being separated is what God requires of His people-He always has.

"Standards" holiness has produced nothing and never will except an exclusive group of folks who believe that they are chosen and that their appearance will produce revival. It is unfortunate, indeed, that when the call for holiness goes forth, at least in Apostolic circles, it is rarely differentiated from the way a person LOOKS. Those LOOKS are defined by the "holiness" group and many times anyone outside the group is not considered holy.

Preach, brother, preach.