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05-20-2007, 05:52 PM
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That my friend is the heart of the matter.
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Originally Posted by CupCake
Agree with you, the definition Apostolic and Pentecostals cover a whole range of groups. But if you say holiness standard ones, they'll say ok there the ones who don't cut or wear makeup right??? Never anything about one God or Jesus name, it's always dress.
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05-20-2007, 08:19 PM
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It saddens me that people don't think of Jesus when they think of an apostolic. People don't even think of the apostles when they hear the word apostolic. I'm still trying to figure out how they are going to win people to Jesus when what is displayed isn't Biblical.
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Central to the spirit of the title of this thread, "What the World Sees as Apostolic," lifts the curtain of discussion to reveal every species of dancing spirits in full motion. It was my purpose to address some of these spirits with the Word of God rather than to address a specific scenario presented by the originator of this thread.
It is a crying shame that, if it be so, that the attentions of the world have been focused upon our FLESH and how it is displayed before the world instead of the LIGHT of Christ so exibited within us. If we are so insane as to exhibit before the world OUR FLESH with its adornments or the lack of it, as our LIGHT from a city set upon a hill, our present day Apostolic doctrine has DECEIVED us.
Yet, I know this sad state of affair is true, calling it "separation," while it is not separation at all but rather, it has become just another sub-set of worldliness, abeit, religious worldliness.
So, the dance of spirits continued as this discussion ensued. Again, I want to re-empahsize that our LIGHT will never be a display of FLESH, regardless of how it is, or is not adorned, but rather as the song says...
If I can help somebody as I travel 'long
If I can help somebody with a word or song
If I can show somebody when he's travlin' wrong
Then my living shall not be in vain
If collectively we can embrace THIS focus, we will then give God glory and the world will see Jesus (the light) in us as a bright city set upon a hill that cannot be moved. Otherwise, we will, under the guise of Apostolic Doctrine continue to focus the attentions of the world upon (unholy) FLESH by which the world is not impressed. They already have plenty of their own.
Regardless, I suspect the endless dance of many and varied species of spirits will continue to infinity...or at least, until Jesus says, "ENOUGH."
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 08:43 PM
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That my friend is the heart of the matter.
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Yep, it's all about the outward ~
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05-20-2007, 08:45 PM
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Aren't we a bit jaded? lol
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Yep, it's all about the outward ~
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 08:46 PM
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Aren't we a bit jaded? lol
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05-20-2007, 08:47 PM
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I asked a person I became acquainted with about what he thought of Oneness Pentecostals in general and he said that they are mean, grouchy and don't smile, etc. etc. . Not making this up. He was in a business and said they were the hardest ones to deal with that he rather they do their business somewhere else. Is this sad or what? I'm OP, but not like that and he didn't think of me that way.
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05-20-2007, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER
I asked a person I became acquainted with about what he thought of Oneness Pentecostals in general and he said that they are mean, grouchy and don't smile, etc. etc. . Not making this up. He was in a business and said they were the hardest ones to deal with that he rather they do their business somewhere else. Is this sad or what? I'm OP, but not like that and he didn't think of me that way.
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Exception rather than the rule!!
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05-20-2007, 08:48 PM
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Yeah.. I just found another scripture where the Apostle Paul quoted a pagan. That is at least three instances that the holy writ was defiled by paganism.
Based on Biblical precedent, I figured I would take a little liberty and use contemporary pagans to illustrate biblical perceptions.
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Aerosmith???
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 08:50 PM
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Exception rather than the rule!!
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depends on who the OPs are. just telling you what apostolic meant to him.
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05-20-2007, 08:51 PM
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I'm curious to know what your acquaintance apostolic means. The more stories we hear, the more the evidence will be documented people do not generally see Jesus in an apostolic.
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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER
I asked a person I became acquainted with about what he thought of Oneness Pentecostals in general and he said that they are mean, grouchy and don't smile, etc. etc. . Not making this up. He was in a business and said they were the hardest ones to deal with that he rather they do their business somewhere else. Is this sad or what? I'm OP, but not like that and he didn't think of me that way.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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