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05-20-2007, 12:52 AM
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my definition of apostolic
one who believes in fulfilling John 3:5 and Acts 2:38, whether they believe it takes all three to be saved, or it is necessary to fulfill all three because you are already saved!
If they fulfill the plan they are Apostolic.
Everything else is subjective, as far as this guy is concerned!!
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05-20-2007, 12:53 AM
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There is a lot of circular reasoning in religion. lol
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Perhaps. But it seems to me that if no definition of "apostolic" is acceptable then we have curcular reasoning.
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05-20-2007, 12:56 AM
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Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in. I'm quite certain Rev. Run's pastor has not been baptized in Jesus name. Rev Run's pastor considers himself an apostolic. The definition of apostolic is based on speculation and through the prisms we want to use when defining apostolic.
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
one who believes in fulfilling John 3:5 and Acts 2:38, whether they believe it takes all three to be saved, or it is necessary to fulfill all three because you are already saved!
If they fulfill the plan they are Apostolic.
Everything else is subjective, as far as this guy is concerned!!
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 12:58 AM
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Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in.
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what does that have to do with what I said?
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05-20-2007, 12:58 AM
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I had to finish the post.. sometimes I hit enter too soon.
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what does that have to do with what I said?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in. I'm quite certain Rev. Run's pastor has not been baptized in Jesus name. Rev Run's pastor considers himself an apostolic. The definition of apostolic is based on speculation and through the prisms we want to use when defining apostolic.
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well.. he is not apostolic according to this guy!
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05-20-2007, 01:08 AM
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But he is an apostle (Goes by Bishop Jordan I do believe) according to his definition. This problem happens often when people try to use subjective terms to identifie a work.
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well.. he is not apostolic according to this guy!
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 01:09 AM
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But he is an apostle (Goes by Bishop Jordan I do believe) according to his definition. This problem happens often when people try to use subjective terms to identifie a work.
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well... at least my definition includes conservative and liberal PAJC and PCI!!
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05-20-2007, 01:11 AM
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Is that smoke you are blowing out your icon? SUch symbolism. LOL
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well... at least my definition includes conservative and liberal PAJC and PCI!! 
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 01:13 AM
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Is that smoke you are blowing out your icon? SUch symbolism. LOL
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smoke?? you mean the guys SHADOW???
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