T. Wynn Drost fired!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Max Cosme

Thomas Wynn Drost

An open denial of what his father believed
A second marriage that happened and then never happened
A manifesto written to headquarters declaring autonomy and supremacy over the national IPUM.
A meeting with Bernard and Howell, those of the "colonialist mentality".
A national election to oust him led by national ministers
A refusal to step down claiming legitimate, lifetime rule
Claims of election fraud
A race to license ministers, for votes, on both opposing sides
A Servant Woman, a girlfriend, allegations
A national board calls on General Board
IPUM schism, a split that claims nearly 50%.
Allegations of mishandled funds
Youtube videos defending the fort
General board strips missionary appointment
Pride, a fiefdom crumbles.

The problem is, the UPCI is very strict on these types of things. Without a written confession from the other party, or two witnesses who will put in writing what they witnessed, they can't touch him. I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessarily.

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Something that is never mentioned by him or the UPCI is why they wanted him to step down to begin with. DKB mentioned that the UPCI was at a disadvantage, not being able to spell out all the facts in order to protect the innocent, and that Drost was able to exploit this weakness by making his YouTube videos. (False Accusations - lying) Drost has also accused other missionaries in Mexico of things that are absolutely false. Anyone that has to smear someone else's character to protect his own should not be trusted. To me, if he really cared (Doesn't care about the people he serves) about Mexico, he would have been like the "real mother" of the child Solomon wanted to divide and would have departed in peace, trusting God to vindicate him in the end. All I see here is another Jimmy Swaggart (Guilt by association with one of the most sullied names in Pentecost), self absorbed and thinking that revival can't happen without him.

I knew there was a problem when I went to the Mexican General Conference last year and they had a woman in tight pants and plunging neck line on the platform singing, "Holy, holy, Holy..God in three persons. Blessed Trinity"! I kid you not!! David Wilkerson once said that when a minister is harboring secret sin (Harboring secret sin), his discernment departs (No discernment). Looks like Ol' Dave was right!!

Originally Posted by Originalist

I was at Mexico's General Conference last year. Were you?

Furthermore, what accusations did I make?

What kind of a person smears a missionary's reputation so casually?

[Max Cosme]

As to the marriage that happened and did not happen:

I personally witnessed when Drost's son received news of the pending marriage. I watched him wig out and vocally state he was against such a union.

The FMD pictures of a wife and then no wife, is no secret, indeed.

While I listened in to minister friends of the UPCI's Spanish leadership consistently reiterate a story coming from the Distrito Federal that the "poor woman" was so mentally incompetent and unfit, that the union should never have happened in the first place.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

What kind of a person smears a missionary's reputation so casually?

Making a comparison is not an accusation. I've had THREE pastors in my life who fell into adultery. And I was working for Swaggart when his fiasco happened. I know the signs. Let me clarify. I'm not saying Drost is in adultery or any other immoral act. I'm simply saying I see the same self exalting, authoritarian tendencies in him I've seen in others.

[Max Cosme]

As to the Bishop President choosing to repaint and revise his own father's beliefs are clearly documented in Thomas Fudge's interviews with Wynn, while his version is refuted by his own mother, twin brother and sister.

[Max Cosme]

This last set of events was set in motion when Wynn chose to disqualify the legal voting of the ministry body that by 2/3 vote sought to not give him a vote of confidence. Only to have the election diqualified by the Bishop President saying such a vote was illegal.

[Max Cosme]

Originalist:

The accusations of a servant woman is as much tripe as the accusations of a certain Memphis pastor who allegedly visited call girls.

I have no doubts that such allegations have been bandied about. I don't doubt the bishop who shared this, and my own reliable sources, who have set foot on the ground.

[Max Cosme]

Wynn claims the division has only affected 35%, while the "divisionistas" claim 50%

[Max Cosme]

Stephanas, I hope to one day meet you as you have posted anonymously on this forum for years while claiming to have the "inside" on HQ.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Max Cosme

Originalist:

The accusations of a servant woman is as much tripe as the accusations of a certain Memphis pastor who allegedly visited call girls.

I have no doubts that such allegations have been bandied about. I don't doubt the bishop who shared this, and my own reliable sources, who have set foot on the ground.

I know nothing of what you speak. I was simply pointing out the regulations of the UPCI on such matters.