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11-16-2012, 08:27 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by canam
they have to pipe the sunshine in  |
Only if the government will pay for it, pay to pipe it in, and then convince them that they got it for free.
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11-16-2012, 08:29 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by Stephanas
Only if the government will pay for it, pay to pipe it in, and then convince them that they got it for free.
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11-16-2012, 09:11 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by canam
they ? how many is they ? pleaaaase !
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nobody knows but it appears to be significant
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:16 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by canam
incorrect prax did you listen to it at all ? this vid is ONE week old !! PS HE DOESNT HAVE A MAILING LIST FOR ALL THE MISSIONARIES WORLDWIDE GEEPERS WAKE UP !!
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Yes I did.l It's One week old and the letter posted HERE came afterwards to respond to what he said on his video.
What makes you believe he does not have a mailing list of other missionaries? Aren't they in the Ministers directory?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:17 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by canam
he taught and wrote a book on divine flesh teaching ,everyone knew what he beleived all the way back to his spiritual mother and father Kenneth and Bobbi Wendell , (was their first convert)he always thought God talked to him only with revelations and they ignored it until it was too late (after he wrote a book stating it) then a select few ministers forced the issue and they called him on it so he dumped the upc and had people that didn't leave with him, put in jail and tortured over there by using govt cronies.in addition to church property being lost that was financed by churches over here !
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:18 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
If the work in Mexico,is indeed sovereign,how can a missionary be dropped by the GMB ?
If God called the brother to be a missionary what does it matter if one receives recognition or not ?
Isn't this kind of like telling a Pastor to turn in his credentials because he didn't ask permission to preach in a independent church ?
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Because he is a missionary for the UPCI America.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:18 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
If the brother was not dropped of his credentials why drop him as a missionary ?
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Read the letters. It explains why
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:20 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by Originalist
His credentials are with IPUM, not UPCI of North America. However, his appointment is with UPCI North America and they can drop him.
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Then can't he stay there in Mexico as a Pastor?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 09:22 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by tstew
For the incredibly under-informed. It is standard and known operating procedure that missionaries, upon leaving their post, sell all SFC-type items and return the money to GM to be used for additional things. Personally, I believe there is a legal element. When these things are bought with money people have donated for specific purposes and received tax credits for, I don't believe it can be considered and used as purely personal items. These are not items that were purchased with the missionary's salary (which incidentally they have paid taxes on) for their genuinely personal use.
As to informing missionaries that he was no longer a missionary...again standard operating procedure. In fact, we receive notice when even any licensed minister is no longer licensed. It would be ridiculous to have fellow missionaries find out he was no longer a missionary gradually and through the grapevine. I think it's particularly telling that hundreds of missionaries apparently knew that he was no longer a missionary, but NOBODY HERE (including those who profess to be close to him) knew about it. I think that qualifies as keeping it in house. The tragedy is that now EVERYBODY knows something.
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That's my point
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-16-2012, 10:07 PM
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Re: T. Wynn Drost fired!
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Originally Posted by tstew
For the incredibly under-informed. It is standard and known operating procedure that missionaries, upon leaving their post, sell all SFC-type items and return the money to GM to be used for additional things. Personally, I believe there is a legal element. When these things are bought with money people have donated for specific purposes and received tax credits for, I don't believe it can be considered and used as purely personal items. These are not items that were purchased with the missionary's salary (which incidentally they have paid taxes on) for their genuinely personal use.
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Wow. You are really stretching to justify demanding 8 year old appliances be sold and money restituted. The Mothership may be 100% right in the actions they took regarding his position but if this is their "standard operating procedure" concerning items purchased or donated for missionaries I would suggest that some common sense needs to prevail.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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