Anger + Sadness = RAGE

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by CC1

As someone recently testified before congress, people will stop "profiling" young black males as soon as young black males are no longer responsible for an incredible percentage of the crimes in the United States.

I wish Reverend Al and Reverend Jesse would spend as much time and energy promoting work ethic, family values, etc in the black community as they spend perpetuating he victim mentality.

Great post!!!!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by CC1

As someone recently testified before congress, people will stop "profiling" young black males as soon as young black males are no longer responsible for an incredible percentage of the crimes in the United States.

I wish Reverend Al and Reverend Jesse would spend as much time and energy promoting work ethic, family values, etc in the black community as they spend perpetuating he victim mentality.

Honestly, they don't really do that anymore.

Here are some stats to accompany the assertion of that person in Congress. The percentages are not as "incredible" as the statement may imply for some who would read it. Nevertheless, these stats are sad and are indicative a problem that is deeper than race.


http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/off...rtable_03.html

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Wow, talk about over reaching.

Yes, the prosecutor definitely overreached.

[J4Truth]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Yes, the prosecutor definitely overreached.

I think so also, but the media and political pressure probably made it happen, at least for now anyways.

[houston]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Ugh! This thread was almost off the first page and you guys had to resurrect it! DIE THREAD DIE!!!

what's wrong, cracka?

[houston]

totally kidding, deac

[MissBrattified]

I think it's interesting that most of the media frenzy and public outcry about this case has relatively died down. To ME that clearly sends the message that people were mostly upset that the police weren't really looking into the case, and that they aren't as concerned with the final outcome as long as they believe justice is being served. Of course, there are exceptions--some people will be very upset if he's found innocent. Some people are upset that the prosecutor is even attempting to try this case. Somewhere in the middle, you have normal Americans who are offended by what happened and want the court system to do it's job. And most of those people will be mollified by the process even if they think the outcome wasn't the right one. (aka, Casey Anthony, O.J. Simpson)

It is quite possible that there will not be enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. Two things, though: 1. a lack of clear evidence doesn't mean someone is innocent; it means their guilt can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. 2. No matter what comes out in court, I will always be suspicious of Zimmerman's motives because he was following an unarmed kid who wasn't doing anything wrong AND because he continued to follow after being asked not to by the dispatcher.

There was similar outcry in OK a few years ago because a pharmacist shot a kid who was burglarizing his store--after the kid had already been shot once and was lying on the ground incapacitated (and the threat was completely removed as illustrated by security video), he shot him again and killed him. He was convicted of murder. Rightfully so, IMO. Excessive force is not only illegal, it's immoral. It's illegal for policemen to use excessive force--why would it be okay for the average citizen to do that?

That said, at least this is being addressed and I feel better about it either way. It's important to note that I can be eternally suspicious of Zimmerman and still be satisfied that the police and court system are doing their jobs. I don't have to agree with the final outcome in order to be satisfied that justice is being served.

[Jermyn Davidson]

To add to your post MissBratfield, regardless of the legal outcome of this case, Trayvon Martin's death will remain senseless and tragic and there is nothing that will bring him back.

What can be learned from this? I am not sure.

Maybe if a citizen can apply enough pressure when an injustice occurs, there is a way for the injustice to be addressed. It was a complete injustice for there not to have been a thorough investigation to Trayvon Martin's death from the very beginning.

Other than that, I am at a loss for seeing any other lessons. This whole thing is just so, so tragic. It was completely avoidable. It is just sad.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think it's interesting that most of the media frenzy and public outcry about this case has relatively died down. To ME that clearly sends the message that people were mostly upset that the police weren't really looking into the case, and that they aren't as concerned with the final outcome as long as they believe justice is being served. Of course, there are exceptions--some people will be very upset if he's found innocent. Some people are upset that the prosecutor is even attempting to try this case. Somewhere in the middle, you have normal Americans who are offended by what happened and want the court system to do it's job. And most of those people will be mollified by the process even if they think the outcome wasn't the right one. (aka, Casey Anthony, O.J. Simpson)

It is quite possible that there will not be enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. Two things, though: 1. a lack of clear evidence doesn't mean someone is innocent; it means their guilt can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. 2. No matter what comes out in court, I will always be suspicious of Zimmerman's motives because he was following an unarmed kid who wasn't doing anything wrong AND because he continued to follow after being asked not to by the dispatcher.

There was similar outcry in OK a few years ago because a pharmacist shot a kid who was burglarizing his store--after the kid had already been shot once and was lying on the ground incapacitated (and the threat was completely removed as illustrated by security video), he shot him again and killed him. He was convicted of murder. Rightfully so, IMO. Excessive force is not only illegal, it's immoral. It's illegal for policemen to use excessive force--why would it be okay for the average citizen to do that?

That said, at least this is being addressed and I feel better about it either way. It's important to note that I can be eternally suspicious of Zimmerman and still be satisfied that the police and court system are doing their jobs. I don't have to agree with the final outcome in order to be satisfied that justice is being served.

How do yo know he continued to follow after being asked not to?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

To add to your post MissBratfield, regardless of the legal outcome of this case, Trayvon Martin's death will remain senseless and tragic and there is nothing that will bring him back.

What can be learned from this? I am not sure.

Maybe if a citizen can apply enough pressure when an injustice occurs, there is a way for the injustice to be addressed. It was a complete injustice for there not to have been a thorough investigation to Trayvon Martin's death from the very beginning.

Other than that, I am at a loss for seeing any other lessons. This whole thing is just so, so tragic. It was completely avoidable. It is just sad.

shows us not to be so fast with contronting or attacking another individual.