Rejoicing In the Sabbath:

[TGBTG]

Exodus 20
1And God spake all these words, saying,

2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

13Thou shalt not kill.

14Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15Thou shalt not steal.

16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

18And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

19And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

21And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

22And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.

24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.

25And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.

26Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

Aquila, I'm curious as to why you stop at verse 8 and don't go on to carry out verse 24.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Perhaps it is but why are there no major denominations who's entire doctrine is based around other commandments?

Why isn't there a Thou Murderist Not church? Or a Covestist Not Thy Neighbors Wife Federation church? Or even an Excuse me, why doth thou needith a starship church?

Because no other commandment is so blatantly violated? By the way...there are Sabbath keepers in every denomination today.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

What you call the Law of Moses was INSTITUTED by God. Circumcision was instituted by God. Isn't that also the law of Moses? Why don't you also preach circumcision?

And yes, the Law did not pass until ALL of the Law was fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled the Law.

Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Since you're dividing the Law of Moses from the Law of God, what Law is Paul talking about in Rom 8:4? are we required to fulfill the righteousness of the Law of Moses or the righteousness of the Law of God?

My question was what exactly do you DO (or not DO) on that day? If you worship God everyday, what exactly makes the sabbath different?

Ha...(can't speak for others), but I don't honor the day called Sunday. To me I regard everyday alike. I live to worship Jesus sunday through saturday. This is why I ask what exactly do you different on your sabbath day?

The Israelites had specific instruction on what to do and what not to do on the sabbath. How exactly do you obey God on the sabbath day? Is it just by saying "hey, today is the sabbath"

I rest and worship. Haven't you read the fourth commandment?

There is a thread on what distinguishes the Law of God from the Law of Moses.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I rest and worship. Haven't you read the fourth commandment?

There is a thread on what distinguishes the Law of God from the Law of Moses.

But you also said you worship everyday, so you don't really do anything different then? Or you don't rest everyday?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

What you call the Law of Moses was INSTITUTED by God. Circumcision was instituted by God. Isn't that also the law of Moses? Why don't you also preach circumcision?

Law of God vs. the Law of Moses. Please compare the two:

The Law of Moses

Called "the law of Moses"
LUKE 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord.

Called "Law contained in ordinances"
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

Written by Moses in a book
2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen.

Placed in the side of the ark
DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Ended at the cross
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

Added because of sin
GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Contrary to us, against us
COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.

Judges no man
COL. 2:14-16 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Carnal
HEB. 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Made nothing perfect
HEB. 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

And now consider the Law of God (the Ten Commandments):


The Law of God (Ten Commandments)

Called "the Law of the Lord"
ISA. 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Called "the Royal law"
JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Written by God on stone
EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.

Placed inside the ark
EXO. 40:20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark:

Will stand forever
LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Points out sin
ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Not grievous
1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Judges all men
JAM. 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Spiritual
ROM. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Perfect
PSALMS 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

One of the greatest challenges of a Christian is to distinguish between the Law of Moses and the Law of God when reading about a Christian's relationship to the Law in the NT. The Law of Moses was nailed to the cross not the Law of God (Ten Commandments). The Ten Commandments still stand:

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

But you also said you worship everyday, so you don't really do anything different then? Or you don't rest everyday?

No, I rest in Christ and worship every day. But only on the Sabbath do I spend the entire day in physical rest and worship.

Do you oppose those convicted to obey the LORD'S commandments?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

If we are going to keep one part of the law then we must keep all the law. BTW where do folkss get to divide the law into moral, ceremonial, etc...... Jesus and apostles only refered to the law.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Can't quote. Law to be obey then make allowance for not obeying it completely.

Yes...

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No, I rest in Christ and worship every day. But only on the Sabbath do I spend the entire day in physical rest and worship.

Do you oppose those convicted to obey the LORD'S commandments?

Hey, I'm not opposing any body who wants to keep what they feel is the Lord's commandments.

I'm just against people judging other believers for not keeping the Law

Having said that, I'm reminded of Paul's words:

Rom 14
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


You esteem the day, so you regard the day unto the Lord.
I do not esteem any day above another, so to the Lord also I regard it

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Yes...

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

One has to distinguish between the Law of God and the Law of Moses by drawing from context. In one text the law is called "carnal"...in another the law is called "spiritual". Well, which is it? It can't be both. Ahhh, but the discerning reader can distinguish that one reference is to the ordinances delivered to Moses...one is a holy moral law revealing God's holiness and will for mankind.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Aquila

One has to distinguish between the Law of God and the Law of Moses by drawing from context. In one text the law is called "carnal"...in another the law is called "spiritual". Well, which is it? It can't be both. Ahhh, but the discerning reader can distinguish that one reference is to the ordinances delivered to Moses...one is a holy moral law revealing God's holiness and will for mankind.

Where is the law called carnal?

nevermind: Heb 9:10