Spiritual Abuse: Fact or Fiction

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Subdued, I've experienced more abuse than anyone here would possibly believe( I suppose it goes with the calling, or at least thats what I've been told). I have been emotionally, and physically abused by people who I love. I have been ostasized, lied about, beaten black and blue, sexually molested and the story goes on and on. I do not dwell, nor ALLOW those things to affect my spirit. To be spiritually abused is a choice, I will not choose to give satan credit for any spiritual damage.

I'm sincerely sorry that I judged you wrongly. Please forgive me.

I have experienced all of the same (that you've written). Unfortunately, some of the abuse happened to me before I even realized it was abuse. FORTUNATELY, Jesus brought me through and out! I did not "choose" to be abused - ever.

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Good job at controlling yourself. I said fiction because I believe that it is possible to deny anyone power to spiritually abuse you. When one feels abused in the sense that is being discussed, it is because the abused individual is giving power to Satan to be spiritually abused. I'm not really denying the existance of it, as much as I am trying to help people understand, that if you have the Holy Ghost, and your "spirit" is connected to "His Spirit" then the outcome of abuse can not affect you.

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Subdued, I've experienced more abuse than anyone here would possibly believe( I suppose it goes with the calling, or at least thats what I've been told). I have been emotionally, and physically abused by people who I love. I have been ostasized, lied about, beaten black and blue, sexually molested and the story goes on and on. I do not dwell, nor ALLOW those things to affect my spirit. To be spiritually abused is a choice, I will not choose to give satan credit for any spiritual damage.

So anything bad that anyone has ever done to you was your own fault? I'm sorry, but this is the same mentality that abused women have... "He wouldn't beat me if I hadn't done something wrong."

I find this attitude disturbing.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

To be spiritually abused is a choice, I will not choose to give satan credit for any spiritual damage.

I'm not sure that spiritual abuse is a choice always. And I'm not sure what you're meaning exactly when you say that you choose to not give satan credit for spiritual damage.

Could you explain that a bit?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

So anything bad that anyone has ever done to you was your own fault? I'm sorry, but this is the same mentality that abused women have... "He wouldn't beat me if I hadn't done something wrong."

I find this attitude disturbing.

Okay, let me say it once again. I am not denying abuse, I'm saying that no one has to allow it to penetrate thier spirit. God gave us the ability to overcome and rise above it.

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Good job at controlling yourself. I said fiction because I believe that it is possible to deny anyone power to spiritually abuse you. When one feels abused in the sense that is being discussed, it is because the abused individual is giving power to Satan to be spiritually abused. I'm not really denying the existance of it, as much as I am trying to help people understand, that if you have the Holy Ghost, and your "spirit" is connected to "His Spirit" then the outcome of abuse can not affect you.

A person can also choose not to give power to these so-called spiritual abusers.

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Subdued, I've experienced more abuse than anyone here would possibly believe( I suppose it goes with the calling, or at least thats what I've been told). I have been emotionally, and physically abused by people who I love. I have been ostasized, lied about, beaten black and blue, sexually molested and the story goes on and on. I do not dwell, nor ALLOW those things to affect my spirit. To be spiritually abused is a choice, I will not choose to give satan credit for any spiritual damage.

Yes, people have the choice to either be victims or victors!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I'm not sure that spiritual abuse is a choice always. And I'm not sure what you're meaning exactly when you say that you choose to not give satan credit for spiritual damage.

Could you explain that a bit?

I'll expound a little later, for know I gotta go.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Chan

Yes, people have the choice to either be victims or victors!

Not always, Chan. But they do have a choice whether or not to REMAIN a victim or to BECOME a victor!

Originally Posted by Subdued

Not always, Chan. But they do have a choice whether or not to REMAIN a victim or to BECOME a victor!

Yes, always (by the way, we're talking about so-called "spiritual abuse"): one does not have to allow the supposed abuser's actions to have a negative impact. We have the Holy Ghost dwelling within us and, thus, have the obligation to turn to Him when someone says or does something that some might define as "spiritual abuse" (I'm still not convinced there is such a thing as spiritual abuse but, at least in this response, I'm just assuming for the moment that there is such a thing). After all, Peter told us to cast all our anxieties on Jesus because Jesus cares for us. Isaiah said that God would keep in perfect peace those whose minds are fixed on Him. Then, of course, there's Paul's whole thing about dying daily.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Okay, let me say it once again. I am not denying abuse, I'm saying that no one has to allow it to penetrate thier spirit. God gave us the ability to overcome and rise above it.

Agree with this. Your good spirit shines through bro. I've noticed it.