Obama and Israel's pre-1967 Borders

[Scott Hutchinson]

Obama should leave stuff like this alone.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by mfblume

1. Have borders as they were prior to '67 war? I disagree. Jerusalem is Israel's.

2. I think Joel's prophecy has absolutely nothing to do with this issue.

Regards!

I agree.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by GISG

Abbas slams Obama for saying Jerusalem to stay Israel's undivided capital
After Obama speech to AIPAC, Abbas says Palestinians won't accept state without capital in Jerusalem.
By Haaretz Service and News Agencies



So much for that.
Of course with the likes of using a CNN reporter as a foreign policy advisor, what can be expected from this enept president?

When did President Obama reaffirm Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

During the Thursday speech?
A couple of hours after the Thursday speech?
Sometime in the past?

This is important in my mind to ascertain EXACTLY what he meant when he said what he said at the State Dept on Thursday.

I really couldn't find it on the copy of the State Dept Speech I read.




The burden of communication is on the communicator.
If Jerusalem was never "on the table" in his mind on Thursday, then he should not have allowed the opportunity for his intents to be misunderstood.

[scotty]

"Obama said Friday that differences remain between the United States and Israel over the Middle East peace process, but that their relationship is "sound and will continue."

Ummm no Mr President, there are no differences between the US and Israel... only between YOU and Israel.

"Obama, in a sweeping address tackling the uprisings in the Middle East and the stalled peace process, stunned Washington and Jerusalem Thursday by endorsing Palestinians' demand for their own state based on the pre-1967 borders."

If it stunned Washington then how can he say he represents the US or the opinions or stances of Americans.?

"Obama said Thursday that the "future of Jerusalem" remains to be worked out,"

What does Obama truley believe to gain from these remarks ? How could his own staff allow him to say these things without saying: "ummm , we might not want to say that because ............... "

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by scotty

But I thought Jeruselum was outside the 1967 borders ?

Jerusalem was divided into two cities: East Jerusalem under Arab control, and West Jerusalem under Israeli control. During the Six-Day War Israel reunited the two halves of the city into a unified Jerusalem and since have declared they will never allow the city to be divided again. To revert back to the 1967 borders would mean to go back to a divided city.

[Pressing-On]

Map of Jerusalem - with holy sites:



Obama's map:



Obama's gift includes these sites; The Garden of Gethsamene, Chapel of the Ascension, The Tomb of the Virgin, The Tower of David, The Wailing Wall, The Via Delarosa (the final steps of Jesus Christ), The tomb of Jesus Christ, The Church of St. Anne The Church of the Flagellation, The Church of All Nations, The site of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

[GISG]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

When did President Obama reaffirm Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

During the Thursday speech?
A couple of hours after the Thursday speech?
Sometime in the past?

This is important in my mind to ascertain EXACTLY what he meant when he said what he said at the State Dept on Thursday.

I really couldn't find it on the copy of the State Dept Speech I read.


The burden of communication is on the communicator.
If Jerusalem was never "on the table" in his mind on Thursday, then he should not have allowed the opportunity for his intents to be misunderstood.

This was in a speech after recieving the democrat nomination, in 2008.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by GISG

This was in a speech after recieving the democrat nomination, in 2008.

So it was while he was campaigning......

campaigning is like courtship
serving in office is like marriage

[GISG]

Originally Posted by Sam

So it was while he was campaigning......

campaigning is like courtship
serving in office is like marriage

Apparently he divorced the first wife and is giving the second one another promise.

[Light]

Originally Posted by scotty

This isnt a political discussion Light, we may disagree on those views , but this is about the security of Israel. Please explain your statement.

All one has to do is google pre 67 borders. Then look where Jerusalem is on the maps. It is inside the Israeli border.
As far as the security of Israel is concerned it doesn't matter one way or the other what America or any other nation does. God will do as it pleases with Israel. God is in control.