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Old 03-14-2011, 03:37 PM
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To me that would be the same thing as expecting a pastor who is receiving a salary from his church to report any gifts, offerings, lottery winnings, or honorariums from preaching somewhere else, or any money received from funerals, weddings, baptisms, bar mitzvahs, etc to the church board so his paycheck could be decreased by that amount.
I know.

I'm most certain a pastor that speaks somewhere on the weekend doesn't go back to his church and say, deduct $500 from my check this week since I got paid to preach at another engagement.
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:42 PM
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Why would anybody want to know if someone gave me a GIFT? I REALLY LIKE THE UPC but do not agree with all the reporting,,,
Ironically, I'm going to have to report this.

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It's what they are expected to do - - they are being honest. And the "gift" of money is exactly what has to be reported.
Whats the reason behind this 'rule'?
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:54 PM
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honorariums from preaching somewhere else
This could be argued, as it is likely that the church would have to pay someone else to preach in his absence. I wouldn't push it if I were on the board as long as it wasn't excessive (which would have to be determined by the parties involved).
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This could be argued, as it is likely that the church would have to pay someone else to preach in his absence. I wouldn't push it if I were on the board as long as it wasn't excessive (which would have to be determined by the parties involved).
One of the elders or "preacher boys" in the local church could fill in when he was gone.
They wouldn't get paid for that.
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Whats the reason behind this 'rule'?
Not sure I've ever heard the reasoning.
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One of the elders or "preacher boys" in the local church could fill in when he was gone.
They wouldn't get paid for that.
I agree - but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a pay dock. But it would have to get pretty bad to get to that point.
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