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02-07-2011, 01:53 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
The med sheet said that those were some of the side effects. So I guess the body has to adjust right? The dizzy is not an issue, more light headed and headaches.
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One time I was taking new BP meds and nobody told me the side effects. I had tingling in my scalp and it freaked me out until I read the documentation that came with it and found it was a side effect
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08-09-2016, 01:59 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
One time I was taking new BP meds and nobody told me the side effects. I had tingling in my scalp and it freaked me out until I read the documentation that came with it and found it was a side effect
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ya, so is death  no pun intended
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08-10-2016, 12:17 AM
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Saved by Grace
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Can you imagine what a great forum this would be if every thread were centered around inspirations, creative ideas, and strategies about how to reach our neighbors, co-workers, and relatives? But I've seen mostly gossip, judgment, trinitarian-bashing, character destroying, reputation shredding, and personal insults.
If a thread were started titled, "My experience in reaching my neighbor", would anyone even look? I wonder.
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Yep
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08-10-2016, 12:54 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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Originally Posted by GrowingPains
I disagree. I think some of these new gimmicks the church is experimenting with will turn many back toward more liturgical and orthodox religion. Mark my words. Lakewood, Saddleback, etc will help push that back toward orthodoxy. It may not be with young people, but watch young married couples with children make that transition. Hope I'm wrong though.
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08-10-2016, 01:01 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
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Originally Posted by edjen01
i am one of those sons...and the more i preach the gospel...the more I want to leave the upci. i see many differences between the gospel Jesus taught and the one taught by much of the upci.
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hallelujah!
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08-10-2016, 03:44 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
the Gospel Jesus taught is not religion though, Hou. Orthodoxy is just as dead. This is not to say that there are not many in Ortho that follow Christ of course, just like in the UPCI (or for that matter any other group of seekers after God, whose "Orthodoxy" would make us uncomfortable), many or even most pastors included, but it does suggest a doctrine, and thus "indoctrination," which i have come to view as religion's attempts to separate us from the world, that in fact separate us from our fellow men.
Beware anything that allows an "us" and a "them" based upon anything other than a person's conduct, imo. If a stranger to you can be considered an "outsider" based solely upon preconceived notions of their salvational status, say because they have mentioned that they are a Dharmi (a Hindu, to us) or something, or that they are "gay" even, then congrats, you are indoctrinated, and you have lost the path.
And if you doubt this, just ask yourself what they are "outside" of? Or ask the pastor, and listen to what they tell you. And when they go into a bunch of generalities and provide you with a judgement of that person, that they have not met, then you have your answer.
Of course it is human nature to seek a congregation of like-minded people based upon mutual interests--which actually tells you all you need to know, right there--but this violates there is no place for me in this world, and while i am certainly not suggesting that one abandon gathering together with those who seek God in whatever manner is familiar to them, it should be recognized that you will never, ever find a group of people who believe everything you believe.
"Thank you, God, that i am like the rest of men."
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08-10-2016, 02:11 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
Wow! A five year old thread.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-10-2016, 03:14 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
yep
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yep
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08-10-2016, 03:16 PM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
bet "my experience getting free gold from my neighbor" would get some hits!
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08-10-2016, 04:34 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!
do not speak to me until you apologize to Mike Blume
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