Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[UnTraditional]

OK, I just had to delete my response. Thank God for the delete key.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by paul kimrey

Never heard of affirmation statement in the Bible for man or woman,please give chapter and verse for that.1st Timothy 2:12 and 1st Cor 14:35 are plain easy to read scriptures.
The Bible is not like the Supreme Court where if you run a case through enough times you may get a ruling over turned.Gods Word is established forever.

This is true. God's Word is established. But who thinks they KNOW all that God says, has every interpretation for every scripture?

We know in part and only as God reveals to us will we know in full.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Let me ask you this? In your church, do the women speak whatsoever, even saying Hallelujah, or shout in praise during praise? If so, then according to your doctrine, your entire service is out of order, and you all have sinned. Thank God for a good understanding that a woman who is to preach the Word is to do so under the authority of the man in her life. Your perversion of the Word is just that, perversion.

For about the 5th time now, the Greek word for Speak in I Cor. 14:34 [or 35?] is "Lal-eh-o," & is also translated as "preach" 6x's in the NT. Since the immediate context is dealing w/ the evaluation of prophecy, many scholars see the prohibition as forbidding women from partaking in this practice [evaluation of prophecy].

Regardless, who in their right mind would read "let your women keep silent in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak" & say "O, I guess God ordains women into the 5-fold ministry"??????? No one w/ an honest heart!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by rdp

For about the 5th time now, the Greek word for Speak in I Cor. 14:34 [or 35?] is "Lal-eh-o," & is also translated as "preach" 6x's in the NT. Since the immediate context is dealing w/ the evaluation of prophecy, many scholars see the prohibition as forbidding women from partaking in this practice [evaluation of prophecy].

Regardless, who in their right mind would read "let your women keep silent in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak" & say "O, I guess God ordains women into the 5-fold ministry"??????? No one w/ an honest heart!

Are there any women in your church? And if so, do they speak at all? Pray or testify aloud?

[paul kimrey]

Originally Posted by rdp

For about the 5th time now, the Greek word for Speak in I Cor. 14:34 [or 35?] is "Lal-eh-o," & is also translated as "preach" 6x's in the NT. Since the immediate context is dealing w/ the evaluation of prophecy, many scholars see the prohibition as forbidding women from partaking in this practice [evaluation of prophecy].

Regardless, who in their right mind would read "let your women keep silent in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak" & say "O, I guess God ordains women into the 5-fold ministry"??????? No one w/ an honest heart!

AMEN

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Who was commanded to do that exactly???????????????????
(hint)
Were any of the eleven women?

Is this a gender question?????????

[Scott Hutchinson]

Doesn't the bible mention women prophesying ? Is not there prophecy that is telling forth and not foretelling ?

[paul kimrey]

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

2:8-15 Under the gospel, prayer is not to be confined to any one particular house of prayer, but men must pray every where. We must pray in our closets, pray in our families, pray at our meals, pray when we are on journeys, and pray in the solemn assemblies, whether more public or private. We must pray in charity; without wrath, or malice, or anger at any person. We must pray in faith, without doubting, and without disputing. Women who profess the Christian religion, must be modest in apparel, not affecting gaudiness, gaiety, or costliness. Good works are the best ornament; these are, in the sight of God, of great price. Modesty and neatness are more to be consulted in garments than elegance and fashion. And it would be well if the professors of serious godliness were wholly free from vanity in dress. They should spend more time and money in relieving the sick and distressed, than in decorating themselves and their children. To do this in a manner unsuitable to their rank in life, and their profession of godliness, is sinful. These are not trifles, but Divine commands. The best ornaments for professors of godliness, are good works. According to St. Paul, women are not allowed to be public teachers in the church; for teaching is an office of authority. But good women may and ought to teach their children at home the principles of true religion. Also, women must not think themselves excused from learning what is necessary to salvation, though they must not usurp authority. As woman was last in the creation, which is one reason for her subjection, so she was first in the transgression. But there is a word of comfort; that those who continue in sobriety, shall be saved in child-bearing, or with child-bearing, by the Messiah, who was born of a woman. And the especial sorrow to which the female sex is subject, should cause men to exercise their authority with much gentleness, tenderness, and affection.

[paul kimrey]

This is a qualification issue and it is found in the word of God.I also don't think men who don't line up to 1ST Timothy 3 should be allowed to preach either.

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Are there any women in your church? And if so, do they speak at all? Pray or testify aloud?

They ain't gonna answer that question. If they did honestly, they would see how hypocritical their stance is.