The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking

[Michael The Disciple]

My poll asked the question to our Forum members is Jesus God the Father. Out of 1380 active members as of yesterday a whopping 25 people voted! Out of the 25 14 reported they do NOT believe Jesus is God the Father. On the Other hand 11 held that he is.

For a Oneness Forum I consider this to be a staggering defeat for Oneness doctrine.

So my initial impression that the flow of this forum is generally anti Oneness was by no means "nonsense" as it was spinned. It was the actual gauge of where Apostolic Friends Forum currently is.

Well trying to find the good side as I said earlier at least we are allowed to discuss Oneness doctrine here.

[The Mrs]

Out of 1380 active members, you're taking the voices of 25 and coming up with a 'good' conclusion???

Wow!

Some folks just aren't interested in voting apparently. I didn't. Doesn't mean anything other than I just wasn't interested.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

My poll asked the question to our Forum members is Jesus God the Father. Out of 1380 active members as of yesterday a whopping 25 people voted! Out of the 25 14 reported they do NOT believe Jesus is God the Father. On the Other hand 11 held that he is.

For a Oneness Forum I consider this to be a staggering defeat for Oneness doctrine.

So my initial impression that the flow of this forum is generally anti Oneness was by no means "nonsense" as it was spinned. It was the actual gauge of where Apostolic Friends Forum currently is.

Well trying to find the good side as I said earlier at least we are allowed to discuss Oneness doctrine here.

My impression is of staggering stupidity...

How many ways have you been confronted with the fact that your view of "Oneness" is neither embraced by Oneness scholars nor by many within the movement.

You just ignore this fact over and over and over...

All the time proclaiming that if the rank and file don't agree with your statements they are not Oneness.

What a joke.

[MissBrattified]

I disagreed with the wording, and as you know, doctrinal issues and arguments are ALL based on words, so they must be precise. So I didn't vote.

God the Father manifest Himself in flesh, but that FLESH was NOT God the Father; that flesh (the son) was indwelt by God the Father. Since the man, Christ Jesus, was both man (flesh) and God (Spirit), I can neither say that "Jesus was God the Father" nor "Jesus was not God the Father." It must be worded correctly (and scripturally: I Timothy 3:16): God [Spirit] was manifest in the flesh [Son].

What you propose is a component of what my Dad always referred to as "Jesus-Only" doctrine. One with which I wholeheartedly disagree.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

My impression is of staggering stupidity...

How many ways have you been confronted with the fact that your view of "Oneness" is neither embraced by Oneness scholars nor by many within the movement.

You just ignore this fact over and over and over...

All the time proclaiming that if the rank and file don't agree with your statements they are not Oneness.

What a joke.

My thoughts.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

Out of 1380 active members, you're taking the voices of 25 and coming up with a 'good' conclusion???

Wow!

Some folks just aren't interested in voting apparently. I didn't. Doesn't mean anything other than I just wasn't interested.

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

My poll asked the question to our Forum members is Jesus God the Father. Out of 1380 active members as of yesterday a whopping 25 people voted! Out of the 25 14 reported they do NOT believe Jesus is God the Father. On the Other hand 11 held that he is.

For a Oneness Forum I consider this to be a staggering defeat for Oneness doctrine.

So my initial impression that the flow of this forum is generally anti Oneness was by no means "nonsense" as it was spinned. It was the actual gauge of where Apostolic Friends Forum currently is.

Well trying to find the good side as I said earlier at least we are allowed to discuss Oneness doctrine here.

You should get a job as a pollster. You are soooooo scientific.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

"The UPC is in need of a healer."

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

My impression is of staggering stupidity...

How many ways have you been confronted with the fact that your view of "Oneness" is neither embraced by Oneness scholars nor by many within the movement.

You just ignore this fact over and over and over...

All the time proclaiming that if the rank and file don't agree with your statements they are not Oneness.

What a joke.

Oneness scholars? Which one pray tell? The only one who was allowed as a "scholar" in my thread was David Bernard and he says the same thing I do that Jesus is God the Father. As far as the "rank and file" they were ALL united in this, that Jesus is God the Father until just a few years ago.

But please dont turn this thread into another explanational session and get it buried down in "Godhead debate".