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12-27-2010, 08:36 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Yes, that was my question, but I thought about it and figured it out.
They have to don't they? They have to follow the law and the Constitution. The lawmakers are our problem.
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Yes maam they do. When I was a prosecutor I was sworn in; part of that pledge was to defend the constitution. If there ever came a conflict between my civic duty and my Christian faith I believe I would have to step down from my position. Hopefully a Christian justice would do the same.
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12-27-2010, 08:39 PM
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Best Hair on AFF
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Lol! Every pastor support his conviction? Like there is a multiplicity of right stances? I think not. Those who are inspired by satan to support such abominations - I would "hope" they would repent of their evil ways.
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I said, "I would hope that every pastor would act according to his convictions." What the heck is wrong with that???? You respond with "Inspired by Satan", and "Repent of evil ways" and "Abominations"???? What is your problem?
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12-27-2010, 08:40 PM
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Best Hair on AFF
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Sam
Thank you.
Two things come to mind:
being wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove
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speaking the truth in love
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That's what I tried to do. I believe it's important to make it clear yet not break lines of communication and friendship.
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12-27-2010, 08:40 PM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by whoami
I don't understand what you mean - if they weren't required to follow the constitution and ignore their personal opinions, then considering some of the justices we've had in times past and have currently, we'd be in REAL trouble.
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I understand, and I don't want our system changed in that regard. I just wonder how some of them personally feel about some of the decisions they uphold.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-27-2010, 08:41 PM
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Best Hair on AFF
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Couldn't going with gifts be taken as approval???
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Yes, I would hope so. I wanted them to know that I approved of them as individuals and loved them dearly. They got the message.
Do I approve of everything going on in their lives? Probably not. I"m sure I could say the same about you but if I had attended your wedding, I would have brought you a gift.
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12-27-2010, 08:41 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Couldn't going with gifts be taken as approval???
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Smithy is a" friendly" what a shockaaa !!!! He approved, he just couldnt do it himself, of course after he re read the bible just to be sure he wasnt wrong!! i repeat ! What a farce !
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12-27-2010, 08:42 PM
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Saved by Grace
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Decatur, TX
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
It has been a very touchy thing and when gay marriage was legalized here, I was immediately asked. They know I'm a "Friendly."
But they also expected me to refuse but wanted to give me the opportunity first. I first asked for time to consider it and then met with them and told that I love, support, and embrace them completely as individuals and nothing could ever change that. However, my view of scripture hasn't changed and I couldn't violate my conscience. However, I asked to be invited to the wedding. I attended and my wife and I took gifts. We have continued to be in friendship with them and have not cut off the lines of communication and ministry.
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How could you as a "man of God' (as you said earlier in this thread REQUEST and ATTEND a HOMOSEXUAL WEDDING?
Sorry, I don't see Moses, Jerimiah, Isaiah, James, Peter, Paul, or ANY man of God in the Bible doing such a thing.
What is the REAL and FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE between NOT marrying them, but asking to be invited to their wedding and giving them gifts?
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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12-27-2010, 08:42 PM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Yes maam they do. When I was a prosecutor I was sworn in; part of that pledge was to defend the constitution. If there ever came a conflict between my civic duty and my Christian faith I believe I would have to step down from my position. Hopefully a Christian justice would do the same.
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That was my point, I guess none of our justices have come to that point, of stepping down.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-27-2010, 08:42 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
That's what I tried to do. I believe it's important to make it clear yet not break lines of communication and friendship.
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I think you did a totally admirable job, you made it clear you could not support their lifestyle but that did not mean you did not care for them.
Excellent example.
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12-27-2010, 08:45 PM
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Saved by Grace
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
Maybe pastors should attend abortions as long as they don't perform them?
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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