Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by sandie

As far as I can see, you've got it completly backwards.Christians aren't trying to force anything, it's the activist homosexual agenda that has brought this all on.
This is America, and we are real Americans and in America there are issues that appear on the ballot, put there by real Americans.
We vote, one side wins, one side looses. As far as Codie, if you want to engage him on his behavior, please do so, but I see no advantage in using him as a pawn to make your point in discussing this issue with me.

Aquila is dishonest

! Claims we are using force. It is a false claim
We are seeing folks vote. Voting is an actual act of people exercising liberty.

2 He makes insults and false claims of paranoia. It doesn't work with me. I am the psychologist for real and and he doesn't even know what classic paranoia is.

3 The lies of the gays. Every day they manipulate and try to force their agenda by making straight people prove they are homophobic or seeking power.

4
a..Gay agenda wants civil unions

b Gay agenda wants to legalize gay marriage

c Gay agenda wants to over turn state DOMA constitutional amendments

d Gay agenda is to lower age of consent

e Gay agenda is to educate children and recruit kids

f Gays want to silence and pusnish pastors that call it sin.

g The Gay agenda wants advocates inside our churches.

You are correct. Twisting it completely backwards and making false accusations of force tells us he doesn't have truth on his side.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by sandie

As far as I can see, you've got it completly backwards.
Christians aren't trying to force anything, it's the activist homosexual agenda that has brought this all on.

Yes, gay activists brought up the issue of gays wanting to marry. As a free society that believes that the Constitution protects equal representation under the law, and the rights to life, liberty, and property, for all Americans how do you expect judges to rule in a court of law? Do you expect judges to rule against granting liberty to a free people because it upsets our religious convictions? So yes, more and more judges seek to protect the principles of liberty and a free society as protected by the Constitution. The radicals on the left here want to go further and classify preaching as hate speech. They must be neutalized.

But there is an other group of activists. These desire to counter the radicals on the left by pushing their conservative agenda upon gay Americans using mob rule. These must be neutralized.

This is America, and we are real Americans and in America there are issues that appear on the ballot, put there by real Americans.
We vote, one side wins, one side looses.

Would you feel that way if the masses voted that you didn't have the right to marry whoever you choose? Or would you then believe that you have God given liberties, liberties protected by the Constitution?

As far as Codie, if you want to engage him on his behavior, please do so, but I see no advantage in using him as a pawn to make your point in discussing this issue with me.

Just using Coadie to illustrate my point.

[Socialite]

As a Libertarian... well....

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Aquila is dishonest

! Claims we are using force. It is a false claim
We are seeing folks vote. Voting is an actual act of people exercising liberty.

Coadie's entire premise us to use democracy to subvert the liberties of those he disagrees with.

2 He makes insults and false claims of paranoia. It doesn't work with me. I am the psychologist for real and and he doesn't even know what classic paranoia is.

Coadie believes that because he's a psychologist he's the authority. His intent is to ensure that you trust him instead of thinking for yourself.

3 The lies of the gays. Every day they manipulate and try to force their agenda by making straight people prove they are homophobic or seeking power.

Some radicals on the left do want this.

4
a..Gay agenda wants civil unions

The Libertarian perspective also think's it's wise to slowly back government out of our personal lives.

b Gay agenda wants to legalize gay marriage

The Libertarian doesn't believe t hat the GOVERNMENT has right to legalize or illegalize any form of personal relationship.

c Gay agenda wants to over turn state DOMA constitutional amendments

The Libertarian feels that DOMA empowers GOVERNMENT to police personal relationships and dictate to a free people who they may or may not marry.

d Gay agenda is to lower age of consent

The Libertarian would stand against this.

e Gay agenda is to educate children and recruit kids

The Libertarian stands against this.

f Gays want to silence and pusnish pastors that call it sin.

The Libertarian stands against this.

g The Gay agenda wants advocates inside our churches.

The Libertarian stands against this.

You are correct. Twisting it completely backwards and making false accusations of force tells us he doesn't have truth on his side.

Coadie catagorically fails to properly distinguish between what is a Libertarian position on liberty from the gay agenda.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, gay activists brought up the issue of gays wanting to marry. As a free society that believes that the Constitution protects equal representation under the law, and the rights to life, liberty, and property, for all Americans how do you expect judges to rule in a court of law? Do you expect judges to rule against granting liberty to a free people because it upsets our religious convictions? So yes, more and more judges seek to protect the principles of liberty and a free society as protected by the Constitution. The radicals on the left here want to go further and classify preaching as hate speech. They must be neutalized.

But there is an other group of activists. These desire to counter the radicals on the left by pushing their conservative agenda upon gay Americans using mob rule. These must be neutralized.

Would you feel that way if the masses voted that you didn't have the right to marry whoever you choose? Or would you then believe that you have God given liberties, liberties protected by the Constitution?



Just using Coadie to illustrate my point.

Your hate is coming out. You gave two examples of wanting people neutralized that disagree with you.

Actually you want free speech neutralized. We call your desires tyranny.

No we can't marry anyone we choose. Cousins, kids, already married, brothers and sisters. Get over it. we have restrictions.

and your gay agenda is still an abomination.

[Aquila]

Preach against sin.
Stand against GOVERNMENT power over the individual.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Your hate is coming out. You gave two examples of wanting people neutralized that disagree with you.

Actually you want free speech neutralized. We call your desires tyranny.

No we can't marry anyone we choose. Cousins, kids, already married, brothers and sisters. Get over it. we have restrictions.

and your gay agenda is still an abomination.

Coadie, I'm not supportive of the gay agenda. I'm Libertarian you weirdo. lol

As it has been said, "The government that governs least governs best."

[coadie]

11And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

12And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie, you're paranoid. Most gay people want to live their lives, be happy, and be left alone. You do have the radical nutcases that can't find balance. Just like on our side we have you. It's the two extremes on both sides that REAL Americans have to look out for.

Stop the name calling, Aquila.

[Aquila]

Liberty.