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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
People might throw a fit but I would expect the courts to uphold such a law because it neither prefers nor prohibits religious practice.
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Exactly! It just reminds people about the separation of church and state. No Muslim is harmed by this law; in fact, it guarantees that they are sheltered by American laws, rather than threatened by Sharia law.
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11-05-2010, 12:14 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Soooo, when the 1st amendment says,"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"...
and you then have a law that is clearly against an establishment of religion...
you are telling me that is not in violation? LOL
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Twisp:
How is this law against Islam?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-05-2010, 12:15 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
People might throw a fit but I would expect the courts to uphold such a law because it neither prefers nor prohibits religious practice.
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LOL, there is no hope that the courts uphold this.
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11-05-2010, 12:16 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Originally Posted by Twisp
Soooo, when the 1st amendment says,"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"...
and you then have a law that is clearly against an establishment of religion...
you are telling me that is not in violation? LOL
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You are pretending to turn this into a religion argument and won't have any luck.
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11-05-2010, 12:17 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Twisp:
How is this law against Islam?
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Because it specifies Sharia Law, which is a law based on the religion of Islam.
Singling out a particular religion violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment.
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11-05-2010, 12:18 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Exactly! It just reminds people about the separation of church and state. No Muslim is harmed by this law; in fact, it guarantees that they are sheltered by American laws, rather than threatened by Sharia law.
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How would you feel if "Ten Commandments" replaced "Sharia Law"? Would you feel any different?
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11-05-2010, 12:19 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Because it specifies Sharia Law, which is a law based on the religion of Islam.
Singling out singles out a particular religion violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment.
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It didn't single out Islam; it mentioned Sharia Law, which is technically "international law."
Do you disagree that this law actually protects Muslims in this country from being unfairly prosecuted according to laws to which they may not want to be held accountable?
Did it ever occur to you that if courts allowed Sharia law to be used, that Muslims who fled their countries to escape Sharia law could then be unjustly persecuted in the United States?
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-05-2010, 12:20 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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Because it specifies Sharia Law, which is a law based on the religion of Islam.
Singling out a particular religion violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment.
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Prove it!!!
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11-05-2010, 12:20 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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How would you feel if "Ten Commandments" replaced "Sharia Law"? Would you feel any different?
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Absolutely not. If I'm tried for a crime or someone I love is tried for a crime, I want black and white federal and state laws determining my fate; not arbitrary religious opinions and principles.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-05-2010, 12:21 PM
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Re: OKlahoma voters reject foreign laws
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How would you feel if "Ten Commandments" replaced "Sharia Law"? Would you feel any different?
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Bring up feelings and make it a religious argument.
What a joke.
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