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Old 10-20-2010, 08:17 PM
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The helpless ones i am talking about are the victims...those children and spouses of the addicts.
Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I agree with you here. Strange feeling agreeing with you. LOL
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:27 PM
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As Christians, our response to the issue of homosexuality is twofold:


1. Homosexuality is one of many sins that bring destruction and pain to the life of the sinner. There can be no positive outcome of sin, so compassion for the sinner requires that we lovingly apprise them of their need for change. Withholding truth from the lost is not a loving or compassionate response to their state. Therefore the forum will not shy away from noting what is sin from a scriptural standpoint, providing that truth is shared in love.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

2. The Christian response to a sinner should be the same, no matter what the sin. We should respond with a biblically based solution that illustrates clearly the sinful nature of any particular deed, and also clearly illustrates the compassionate response of Christ to sin. He offers forgiveness to the repentant, plain and simple, and new life in Him. It is not judgmental to acknowledge what is sin, and in fact it is destructive to turn a blind eye to sin. If the lost are not convinced that they are in a position of estrangement from God, they will never be able to come to a place of repentance and be a recipient of His mercy. Therefore, as Christians, both on this forum, and in our personal lives, we should seek to lead sinners to repentance, so they might find new life in Christ.

Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.


II Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

As forum Admin, we will not allow the gay agenda to be pushed on this forum. Meaning, we will not allow a constant barrage of rhetoric designed to make those who adhere to biblical values and scriptural truths feel guilty or inferior. We will not allow a push for acceptance of the gay agenda and lifestyle, and call a rejection thereof a rejection of the individual. They are not one and the same, and should not be treated as such. A rejection of sin is not a rejection of the sinner.

We will not allow a defense of the gay agenda and lifestyle by more liberal leaning minds, or overt criticism toward those who don't practice a similar tolerance for sin.

There are numerous forums online where the gay agenda can be openly proclaimed, even within Christian ranks. There are numerous Christian groups (using the term loosely) who have decided to accept practicing homosexuals as brethren, and perhaps feel they are practicing the love of Christ in doing so. We feel they err, because the love of Christ involves freeing a soul from sin; not encouraging the soul to continue to wallow in the mire.

Therefore, while we allow debate and discussion on the AFF, and we encourage anyone to join who shares an interest in Apostolic topics and concerns, we will not allow an overt attack on biblical values and truths, and upon the character of those who live and preach the same.

Hopefully this will help clarify the forum's position on the matter, and frame future debates.
Question for you. Was anyone propagating the gay agenda? Also can one give their opinion of homosexuals having put their past behind them (because an addict of any kind will always be an addict even if they give it up they may just be a non-practicing addict) and turn toward Christ being able to work in the church without being banned?

I am just trying to figure out where the line is so it is clear where to stay away from. Thanks for your response.
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Question for you. Was anyone propagating the gay agenda? Also can one give their opinion of homosexuals having put their past behind them (because an addict of any kind will always be an addict even if they give it up they may just be a non-practicing addict) and turn toward Christ being able to work in the church without being banned?

I am just trying to figure out where the line is so it is clear where to stay away from. Thanks for your response.
JT, I am personally confused concerning your first question. Charges of "propagating" have not been made here...

The Admin statement stands on it's own. The statement is not new.

Those who have turned to Christ and forsaken homosexuality may certainly share their testimony of the same.

If you have serious doubt regarding compliance, my suggestion is to refrain from making the post.
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LOL, good answer. I think that unless it was money that was obtained through illegal ways you or anyone should take it. IMO.
Funny thing happened a few years ago here in our town...a fellow was growing pot and selling it...so he paid his tithe to his Mormon Bishop...all $18,000 of it...to the Bishops credit instead of taking it no questions asked...he let the police know and they busted the dude.

Might have been a different situation though if the LDS tithe went to the bishop and not Salt Lake
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JT, I am personally confused concerning your first question. Charges of "propagating" have not been made here...

The Admin statement stands on it's own. The statement is not new.

Those who have turned to Christ and forsaken homosexuality may certainly share their testimony of the same.

If you have serious doubt regarding compliance, my suggestion is to refrain from making the post.
I don't have any doubt that I was well within the rules. What I was asking is, based on the Admin post which agreed is not new, is that what was said well with in the rules by the Admins point of view. The reason I asked is that no one had propagated the homosexual life style as being ok, or at least no post I read. So since the Admin post was there I took it to mean that someone had over stepped the rules. Does that make better sense? I hope so.
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Funny thing happened a few years ago here in our town...a fellow was growing pot and selling it...so he paid his tithe to his Mormon Bishop...all $18,000 of it...to the Bishops credit instead of taking it no questions asked...he let the police know and they busted the dude.

Might have been a different situation though if the LDS tithe went to the bishop and not Salt Lake
Perhaps, but from the LDS Bishops that I know and I know a few of them there is no way that it would have gone unreported. They are good and upstanding peeps, at least the ones I know.
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I don't have any doubt that I was well within the rules. What I was asking is, based on the Admin post which agreed is not new, is that what was said well with in the rules by the Admins point of view. The reason I asked is that no one had propagated the homosexual life style as being ok, or at least no post I read. So since the Admin post was there I took it to mean that someone had over stepped the rules. Does that make better sense? I hope so.
Yes It does. I think it was nothing more than stated, to "help clarify the forum's position on the matter, and frame future debates."
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I don't have any doubt that I was well within the rules. What I was asking is, based on the Admin post which agreed is not new, is that what was said well with in the rules by the Admins point of view. The reason I asked is that no one had propagated the homosexual life style as being ok, or at least no post I read. So since the Admin post was there I took it to mean that someone had over stepped the rules. Does that make better sense? I hope so.
I saw it as a preemptive warning. Admins have a sense for impending danger. (I speak from experience. )
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Yes It does. I think it was nothing more than stated, to "help clarify the forum's position on the matter, and frame future debates."
Fair enough. Just doing my due diligence.
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I saw it as a preemptive warning. Admins have a sense for impending danger. (I speak from experience. )
I agree, but I was making sure that nothing I had said was perceived wrong. Pentecostals often "perceive" things in the spirit that aren't acutally happening. LOL
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