Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.

[Cindy]

For most perpetrators admitting guilt is very hard, no matter the evidence. And for the victims, admitting it happened, just as hard.

And for those that are victims in this kind of situation, the emotional pain far out weighs the physical.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Cindy

For most perpetrators admitting guilt is very hard, no matter the evidence. And for the victims, admitting it happened, just as hard.

And for those that are victims in this kind of situation, the emotional pain far out weighs the physical.

Especially grown men admitting they were molested and even "willing" sexual partners in a manipualated relationship. Why would a black man admit to having sex with another man? Four of them at that? Bringing down a man who loved them? I ask myself their motives. Most will say money, but that's not really good enough.

BTW, Eddie Long is one ripped dude.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Especially grown men admitting they were molested and even "willing" sexual partners in a manipualated relationship. Why would a black man admit to having sex with another man? Four of them at that? Bringing down a man who loved them? I ask myself their motives. Most will say money, but that's not really good enough.

BTW, Eddie Long is one ripped dude.

In part of the video interview, the kid expressed the severe pain and guilt inside. Not to speak for the kid, but many carry guilt and torment inside. The lads loved Eddie, and Eddies love in return was eros and not philial love.

Only God can heal and restore these young men. As a fact, many have a lot of issues and can't have a healthy marriage in their future without a inner healing. I understood these felas didn't have a dad and Eddie took over that role. Then he exploited it. The bible shows no mercy to those that harm orphans and the fatherless.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by coadie

In part of the video interview, the kid expressed the severe pain and guilt inside. Not to speak for the kid, but many carry guilt and torment inside. The lads loved Eddie, and Eddies love in return was eros and not philial love.

Only God can heal and restore these young men. As a fact, many have a lot of issues and can't have a healthy marriage in their future without a inner healing. I understood these felas didn't have a dad and Eddie took over that role. Then he exploited it. The bible shows no mercy to those that harm orphans and the fatherless.

I agree with everything you've said except the part about there being "no mercy." That's not what I get when I read the teachings of Jesus. He will indeed suffer consequences, possibly even jail time, if this is all proven in a court of law, not to mention humiliation shame, removal from eldership, etc... But there is most definitely going to be a time for mercy, and our time to respond to him gracefully is even now.

[Sam]

David was very human.
He was a womanizer. Over the years he collected several women/wives/companions.
One adulterous tryst resulted in pregnancy for the woman and death for her husband as David had him killed.
Then David had a future son of hers placed on the throne as his successor even though there were older sons in the royal line.
The stories of what went on among David's children would be like a modern soap opera. We would call him and his family "trailer trash."
Yet, David was a man after God's heart and was mightily used of God to deliver us many of the Psalms we now sing and pray and use for inspiration.
There were limits to what God allowed him to do but he was a mighty man of God.
He is one of our heroes.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Sam

David was very human.
He was a womanizer. Over the years he collected several women/wives/companions.
One adulterous tryst resulted in pregnancy for the woman and death for her husband as David had him killed.
Then David had a future son of hers placed on the throne as his successor even though there were older sons in the royal line.
The stories of what went on among David's children would be like a modern soap opera. We would call him and his family "trailer trash."
Yet, David was a man after God's heart and was mightily used of God to deliver us many of the Psalms we now sing and pray and use for inspiration.
There were limits to what God allowed him to do but he was a mighty man of God.
He is one of our heroes.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The greater loyalty will be to stand beside him with the knowledge that he is guilty as charged.


Mr. Smith, Bishop Long is probably guilty of what he's been accused of and more. At this point, I'm pretty sure he is. I am terribly saddened by this, but there are hundreds more who have been and will be not only saddened, but seriously hurt by his actions.

Do you realize that there are young men who will one day be old men that, without a sovereign MIRACLE from God Almighty, will be affected by this man's terrible, terrible actions?


If he ever needed your prayer and your support, it would be now-- the sheets are removed, the facade is broken, he is a man guilty of sin.

He doesn't need you or anyone who loves him to act like nothing happened.


We don't do him any favors in turning a blind eye to his sin.

We don't do him any favors in devouring him because of his sin.

Really?????? You've already determined his guilt?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Thanks for the well wishes. Already been there, done that and I still have no problem saying what I say. I hope it never happens to you.

BTW, I know the "case" in Ohio (not the sex abuse case) better than probably anyone here. It was the church I was saved in. Verdict is supposed to come out today. I DO know the facts and what happened. I sincerely hope for mercy, but I can tell you that the church folks' dream of a new facility was spent on something (many things) else w/o their consent. However, I'm not going to get into details since many of those folks are still close to me. What happened was NOT in the best interest of the church or it's members.

I certainly hope it never happens to me either. Nor anyone, for that matter.

The UPC Ohio case of which I spoke was a church that was just started a few years ago. I don't recall his name.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I hope his wife stands by him through his recovery.

I can understand if she doesn't.

Biblically, she doesn't have to.


However, I know of a love that will lead one to do things that other folks will never understand.

...wife stands by him? Who, Eddie Long? If that's who you're speaking of, I'd just ask, "What recovery?" We know nothing at this point.

And biblically she "Doesn't have to"? I don't know what you mean. No verifiable facts have been presented yet.

[rgcraig]

I'm very familiar with a church situation where the white pastor has embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars. He wrote a letter of resignation and had it read to the church because he'd already left town.

The big boys are now looking for him. Such a sad situation - what are these guys thinking?

For many years, he had been taking the money that was set aside to pay the employer taxes for the daycare workers and never filing.