Obama For Mosque at Ground Zero

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We shall see.

Muslim leaders to abandon plans for Ground Zero community center

Insiders say Muslim spiritual leaders behind the controversial initiative are considering giving up on the former World Trade Center location, in a gesture of appeasement.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/internat...enter-1.308426

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Park51 Twitter accounts saying Haaretz story is not true.

Park51: Correction, we will be publishing an official twitter response to the Haaretz story and the Hamas comments.

Park51: Official: Reports by Haaretz are completely false. We are committed to plans of building Park 51 to serve the community of Lower Manhattan.

Park51: We are also deeply thankful to the President of the United States and the Mayor of New York City for their support.

Park51: Official: Hamas does not and will not speak for Park51. Our mission is one of peace, understanding, tolerance and faith.

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Park 51, on Twitter, hits back with anti-semitic comment at Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, for publishing a false story.

I was counting the Jews and Muslims on this issue and it's looking very much like a Jewish/Muslim war to me.

Pamela Geller who is with Atlas Shrugs and of Stop Islamization of America.

Park51: On a side note, if Haaretz likes publishing fables, perhaps they could go back to the Yiddish ones with parables #welikethosebetter

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ic-tweets.html

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

The argument isn't one of degree, it's of substance. Fringe groups do evil, not all non-fringe groups do evil. It's logic, Crakjak.

The bolded bothers me. The US should not accommodate the "encroachment" of any "established" religion, but promote freedom of worship for all. Sounds like if you had things your way, you'd ban Islam from the US? It's amazing how little the Constitution means to people when it gets in the way of their conflicting idealogies.

There is nothing that men of commonsense can do, apparently, without offending someone, even when we know we are head for disaster???

"So, roll,roll, roll your boat gentle on down the stream......!!!"

That's why when America now goes to war it tries to "play fair", taking its handicap so the poor terrorist can have a chance!! We're so strong we can fight with both hands tied behind our backs!! Why? Because there is not enough consensus among us to stand against what will destroy.

In times of war, truly dangerous times, America has always sacrificed some freedoms. Now is that time, but America (half of US that is) does have the stomach for the fight.

I guarantee you that the radicals have the stomach, they are bold, "we will build memorials to our victories, right in their front yard!!!" They know America's goodness is also her weakness and they are exploiting US.

Anyone who doesn't think this Imam is of the radical brand is diluted.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It's a time honored Islamic practice to build a Mosque on the site of a military victory. This is a very loud statement that the war is far from over.

Many forget that this is exactly that.... war.

Some thoughts from an individual who is not American on the controversial Islamic Center or Mosque. Here he tells the significance of the proposed name of the center.

http://dotsub.com/view/305b06a0-b4ac...4-789d3d827fc4

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Lovin' this new ad!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJa75...yer_embedded#!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Sam

Some thoughts from an individual who is not American on the controversial Islamic Center or Mosque. Here he tells the significance of the proposed name of the center.

http://dotsub.com/view/305b06a0-b4ac...4-789d3d827fc4

Most American intuitively know these things are true, however we are paralyzed by political correctness and the ravings of the liberal left.

Yes, liberal leftness, truly is a mental disease!!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I've said this before, according to computer models almost everyone with even the slightest bit of European ancestry is descended from Charlemagne and the Prophet Muhammad. http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs...2/05/olson.htm

You or I could be al-Mahdi if this were the only criteria.

I suppose motivation would also be a huge factor. I just don't feel like saving the world today, so I'm probably out. (Mondays!).

It's not the only criteria. Islamic escatology is rather expansive... just like Christian escatology.

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Hadielislam.com posted a translated interview into English by Walid Shoebat. Shoebat is a former Palestinian terrorist and Christian convert who is now a US citizen. In the interview, imam Rauf, reveals his ultimate goal. He wants to use "peaceful means" to establish original Sharia State worldwide.

Rauf is not a moderate Muslim by any means. It might behoove this country to wake up and pay attention.

Read it here:

http://specialguests.com/guests/view...mpl%28=default

[Ferd]

I really dont understand why this is even an issue. the Imam in question is a bad guy. He is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood (really bad guys) and he wants Israel reduced to rubble.

He has also indicated in some ways that islamic terror is understandable.

any one of those things should be enough for us to simply draw a line in the sand. evidently it isnt.