It is my opinion that living the homosexual lifestyle is wrong.
Some people are homosexual, they have sexual desire for someone of the same gender. We don't really know why that is. There are some theories but we don't really know.
There is a difference between being homosexual and living the homosexual life style just as there is a difference between being an alcoholic and living a life of drunkenness.
Some alcoholics may struggle their whole life to live free from alcohol and may fall back occasionally for a while, and then get sober and go on again. I think the same thing may happen to a person who is homosexual. There is a life time struggle and there may be periods of relapse and subsequent recovery. Some times we are not very patient with people in their struggle.
As I am sure most know JCM was plaqued with homosexuality problems, and their were alot who slid down the slippery slope and now are very far from any resemblence to being Apostolic Pentecostals. I see some seem to support these kinds of things but would like some clarification.
I hope that no here thinks that homosexuals will go to Heaven while continuing in this abomination of a lifestyle.
I believe you must treat everyone right, however, there is a spirit that is associated with this lifestyle. I have personally witnessed a backslidden lesbian girl seduce four young ladies out of the church and into that world. Our pastor thought if he just loved her enough and was kind enough to her that he could win her back. He never taught or preached against homosexuality and lesbianism and the lesbian felt comfortable in the church.
We must teach and preach the truth to these people, and in a way where sin is not comfortable.
I am a moderate Apostolic Pentecostal pastor, and although I am not an extemist I still believe in holiness dress distinctives. I watch my home church destroyed because our pastor let down on these principles. It is a slippery slope, first it was separation from the world in activities, then dress standards, and then adultery came in, baptism was no longer necessary, then neither was the Holy Ghost, and now he is a ear ring wearing trinitarian.
He damaged a good and healthy church, but it started in small increments. He was writing a book on why holiness didn't matter while at the same time he was having an affair. Then he wanted people to believe that God had given him the revelation of being delivered from bondage of holiness.
No one fights the holiness message harder or more violently than those who once embraced it. It is a slippery slope, and just so you know I don't preach against beards, or colored shirts, or straight skirts, or short sleeves, or wedding rings, etc. Holiness is based on principles, and tradition I realize that, but these things are a hedge or a fence of protection, tear them down and any unclean thing can come into your house.
The only thing I know of that is "plaqued" is my teeth. That being said, I should probably just sit this one out, because I'll get mad, post WAY too much, and eventually, the thread will get locked. I can give you a gay list from MY bible school, if you like, including my first roommate, who made massive fun of gays, who now runs a gay pentecostal organization.
The only thing I know of that is "plaqued" is my teeth. That being said, I should probably just sit this one out, because I'll get mad, post WAY too much, and eventually, the thread will get locked. I can give you a gay list from MY bible school, if you like, including my first roommate, who made massive fun of gays, who now runs a gay pentecostal organization.
So, I'll move along and be quiet.
I'm not even gonna say I'm not gonna say anything. DOH!
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... I can give you a gay list from MY bible school, if you like, including my first roommate, who made massive fun of gays, who now runs a gay pentecostal organization.
I knew that dot would immediately be connected. Interestingly, my mom identified him immediately. Dorm rooms were shared and I can honestly say, he gave every indication he wasn't gay, including making fun of gays in a way I would never have. Well, I wouldn't at all.
But I knew when I said what I said in that other post, I'd have to defend myself! Whatever.
It is my opinion that living the homosexual lifestyle is wrong.
Some people are homosexual, they have sexual desire for someone of the same gender. We don't really know why that is. There are some theories but we don't really know.
There is a difference between being homosexual and living the homosexual life style just as there is a difference between being an alcoholic and living a life of drunkenness.
Some alcoholics may struggle their whole life to live free from alcohol and may fall back occasionally for a while, and then get sober and go on again. I think the same thing may happen to a person who is homosexual. There is a life time struggle and there may be periods of relapse and subsequent recovery. Some times we are not very patient with people in their struggle.
Well said, Sam. My pastor as mentored about 16 gay men over the years, and your description is very true to reality. He has written a book on his and these men's experience, some of them are married, and some are not. I personally know one that has lived celibate for sixteen years, but has no plan to marry, and knows he has to remain accountable. This is Christian community and ministry, this is were the rubber meets the road, the hard work of discipleship and Christian holiness.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
It is my opinion that living the homosexual lifestyle is wrong.
Some people are homosexual, they have sexual desire for someone of the same gender. We don't really know why that is. There are some theories but we don't really know.
There is a difference between being homosexual and living the homosexual life style just as there is a difference between being an alcoholic and living a life of drunkenness.
Some alcoholics may struggle their whole life to live free from alcohol and may fall back occasionally for a while, and then get sober and go on again. I think the same thing may happen to a person who is homosexual. There is a life time struggle and there may be periods of relapse and subsequent recovery. Some times we are not very patient with people in their struggle.
I knew that dot would immediately be connected. Interestingly, my mom identified him immediately. Dorm rooms were shared and I can honestly say, he gave every indication he wasn't gay, including making fun of gays in a way I would never have. Well, I wouldn't at all.
But I knew when I said what I said in that other post, I'd have to defend myself! Whatever.
It's okay NoW, we still love you bro. Come on out of that closet.
It is my opinion that living the homosexual lifestyle is wrong.
Some people are homosexual, they have sexual desire for someone of the same gender. We don't really know why that is. There are some theories but we don't really know.
There is a difference between being homosexual and living the homosexual life style just as there is a difference between being an alcoholic and living a life of drunkenness.
Some alcoholics may struggle their whole life to live free from alcohol and may fall back occasionally for a while, and then get sober and go on again. I think the same thing may happen to a person who is homosexual. There is a life time struggle and there may be periods of relapse and subsequent recovery. Some times we are not very patient with people in their struggle.
Very good post Sam. I believe that believers who struggle with this are “saved” by grace. Their sin is no worse than the sin I struggle with. I know that some may continue on in the lifestyle, I believe God will deal with them as he chooses… and I trust him. I’d never run anyone out of a church or a bible study over this. I’d share the Word of God with them and talk about the healing and changing power of Jesus. Some who are in bondage to this condition need much mercy and prayer. I firmly believe that they can’t change by sheer will power. I believe they need a supernatural touch from Jesus.
I believe that sin is like a disease that we have all contracted. There are times when the infection lies dormant and the condition is asymptomatic. But then there are periods of time when the symptoms of this condition flare up and are obvious for all to see. Our churches are spiritual hospitals. We need to minister to all who desire to know more about Jesus.
DOH!
I knew that dot would immediately be connected. Interestingly, my mom identified him immediately. Dorm rooms were shared and I can honestly say, he gave every indication he wasn't gay, including making fun of gays in a way I would never have. Well, I wouldn't at all. 
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