Why Acts 2:38 Uses The Word “remission”

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

What I am saying is why would someone be able to get the HG if they had not been baptized first?

In Acts 10, Cornelius and his household did get the Holy Ghost before they were baptized.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Chan

In Acts 10, Cornelius and his household did get the Holy Ghost before they were baptized.

Yeah I know. What I was asking was was there sins forgiven and remitted when the received the HG or where they still sinful until baptism. That was what I was trying to ask. Sorry

[SDG]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Yeah I know. What I was asking was was there sins forgiven and remitted when the received the HG or where they still sinful until bapitsm. That was what I was trying to ask. Sorry

This the dilemma present day water and spirit doctrine cannot explain away.

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Yeah I know. What I was asking was was there sins forgiven and remitted when the received the HG or where they still sinful until bapitsm. That was what I was trying to ask. Sorry

Well, since I believe that it is solely the grace of God (as displayed in Jesus' propitiating work on the cross) that saves us, and that there is no saving power in anything we do (such as repentance, believing, water baptism), and since I agree with most other Pentecostal denominations that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is a second work of grace, they were forgiven the moment they repented of their sins.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This the dilemma present day water and spirit doctrine cannot explain away.

You are right because there is no way to do it that I know of. Obviously you and believe you need to follow what Acts 2:38 is saying, but what the others do not realize is that baptism is more a symbol I guess at the most. Some would say it is an expression of one faith. That is why alot of oneness people say, "by the profession of your faith.." Maybe there is an answer out there that we do not know, but I am waiting to see it.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Chan

Well, since I believe that it is solely the grace of God (as displayed in Jesus' propitiating work on the cross) that saves us, and that there is no saving power in anything we do (such as repentance, believing, water baptism), and since I agree with most other Pentecostal denominations that the baptism of the Holy Ghost is a second work of grace, they were forgiven the moment they repented of their sins.

thanks Chan. Good man

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

thanks Chan. Good man

There is none good but God.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This the dilemma present day water and spirit doctrine cannot explain away.

I think you are a smart man, however, I do not think that you are smart enough (even as a liberal) to explain Acts 2:38 away.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I think you are a smart man, however, I do not think that you are smart enough (even as a liberal) to explain Acts 2:38 away.

East...no one is trying to "explain away" Acts 2:38. It is what it is, the response to the Message. Simple

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I think you are a smart man, however, I do not think that you are smart enough (even as a liberal) to explain Acts 2:38 away.

Who is explaining it away ....