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[DeuteronomyCh8]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I don't go to church for answers.

Why do you go?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

Well I guess we would have to look at Moses for this answer. Or Paul.....or Peter. Your argument is only Valid to a certain extent. Why bother going to church if the pastor doesnt carry any discretion.

They murmured against Moses as well. So now what. Hey you have ALL the ANSWERS.....You dont need a preacher! You know the BIBLE. YOU know what you believe. Theres no need for church or the ministry....Correct???

Duet, who in the NT is compared to Moses? The "pastor" (a term referenced only once in the NT) or Jesus Christ himself? So careful when you give comparison to a mediator and person who stood before the congregation and God like Moses and a guy flying solo at the local church called the pastor.

She makes a great point, actually. Discretion and law are quite the contrary. Even SP could give you a schooling on that. You seem to think the only way to lead people in Christ is to create laws.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

Your mockery of the scriptures is not amusing. Tell me your complaint. (?) Other than you have an axe to grind with any preacher that steps on your TV or anything YOU dont want to give up or comply with.

You challenged people to go to the Scriptures, and then you get personal. Typical. If they don't agree, question their motives. They MUST be bitter.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

Why do you go?

Corporate worship
Hear the word
Social interaction
Be with like-minded people

...just a few reasons.

[DeuteronomyCh8]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Who is "picking and choosing" here?

Read the preceding versus of your favorite Deuteronomy passage. Read the proceeding verses. Read the levitical laws. Let's obey it all! No picking and choosing.

Okay, so then we use hermeneutics. First, we determine what the Text meant to Israel. Second, what was the authorial intent? Third, what was the timeless principle. Finally, what does that mean to us today?

The fact that both men and women wore robes in Deuteronomy 22 should be a "DUH" bell for us. Some choose to read in it their own interpretations. Just be honest!

So I ask you, what commandment in the OT was concerning bifurcated clothing?

The ONLY "bifurcated" garment in the old testament was worn by the priest!
My question to you is this


IS IT WRONG FOR A MAN TO WEAR A SKIRT or DRESS ????????

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

The ONLY "bifurcated" garment in the old testament was worn by the priest!
My question to you is this


IS IT WRONG FOR A MAN TO WEAR A SKIRT or DRESS ????????

Will it send them to hell? No.

Is it unacceptable in our society? Yes.

[DeuteronomyCh8]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Corporate worship
Hear the word
Social interaction
Be with like-minded people

...just a few reasons.

But NOT for answers? Interesting. So they should just READ the word and you take it for what you want??

[DeuteronomyCh8]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Will it send them to hell? No.

Is it unacceptable in our society? Yes.

So men cross dressing is NOT a sin?????

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by John Atkinson

That is exactly right. Some folks pich and choose verse 5 and ignore the rest of the chapter. For consistency we need to also have standards against wearing cotton and polyester at the same time. (Garment of divers sort) and we need fringes.... gotta have the fringes in order to line up to verse 17.

Picking and choosing can work both ways....

Let's look at vs 5 of Dt 22 as DueteronmyCh8 has brought it uo concerning women and the wearing of dresses verese pants.

A woman shall not wear a MANS garment.

Please Br. Dt.8 tell us all the hebrew word translated "man" in this verse nd it's meaning to those it was written to.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by DeuteronomyCh8

The ONLY "bifurcated" garment in the old testament was worn by the priest!
My question to you is this


IS IT WRONG FOR A MAN TO WEAR A SKIRT or DRESS ????????

What does it mean symbolically to our culture today? Just like there were no pants in Jesus' day or Moses', we appeal to culture to make the right application. The correct application of Deut 22 has to do with cross-dressers. A secondary application would be God's value in gender distinction. Be feminine.

In our culture today, a man wearing a dress or skirt is certainly strange, immature, immodest and unacceptable. How many people have you had to kick out of your church for that reason?

My question back to you: Would you wear a pair of women's pants?