Derren Brown: The so called Messiah

RandyWayne · #1 12-28-2009, 04:30 PM

With the threads about prophesying and being raised from the dead, it is very important to have a strong foundation when evaluating such miracles.

I will say that you must have pretty strong faith to view these, but it is very much worth it.

Part 1

Dedicated Mind · #2 12-28-2009, 05:25 PM

I don't understand why u posted these. Do u not believe in prophets or the supernatural? I think this guy has psychic powers and uses them to discredit psychics.

RandyWayne · #3 12-28-2009, 08:08 PM

You think this guy has powers? He flat out says he doesn't. His "gift" is basically the same as that seen on the show 'The Mentalist'.

Timmy · #4 12-28-2009, 08:16 PM

Do you think there are sincere fakes? People who use natural abilities but think they are supernatural?

RandyWayne · #5 12-28-2009, 08:32 PM

I believe there are. Some of the poorer "cold readers" as well as those who think they have dowsing abilities.

Baron1710 · #6 12-28-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I don't understand why u posted these. Do u not believe in prophets or the supernatural? I think this guy has psychic powers and uses them to discredit psychics.

Were you trying to post something that makes no sense at all.

He has psychic powers that he uses to discredit psychics?

I think it is extremely interesting. I hate the way people are manipulated and it happens daily in churches, and if you are the guy that doesn't respond to the manipulation you are going to split hell wide open.

Timmy · #7 12-28-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I believe there are. Some of the poorer "cold readers" as well as those who think they have dowsing abilities.

Can you always spot a fake (whether intentional or accidental)?

RandyWayne · #8 12-28-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Can you always spot a fake (whether intentional or accidental)?

When it comes to those using 'cold reading' techniques, yes I can spot them within seconds. Unfortunately this is the majority.

RandyWayne · #9 12-28-2009, 08:39 PM

What is interesting (and wish it would have been expounded on more in the show) is that the only one of the 5 "professional endorsements" he DIDN'T receive was from the Christian evangelist. Everyone else was willing to offer jobs and interviews right after his (very impressive) demonstrations, but the evangelist, who also said his demo was impressive, wanted to meet again. No more details were given.

Baron1710 · #10 12-28-2009, 08:46 PM

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What is interesting (and wish it would have been expounded on more in the show) is that the only one of the 5 "professional endorsements" he DIDN'T receive was from the Christian evangelist.

I noticed that. I would like to hear what some of the people who were duped had to say after they found out they were fooled. It was interesting that there was no follow up on the minister that refused to endorse him.

That was kind of new age like anyway, rather than Christian.