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Old 04-21-2007, 11:08 PM
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I like the candles that burn when you light them!!
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PO my best advice about a matter , like this is to sincerly pray and ask The Holy Ghost to guide in what to do in the matter.
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PO my best advice about a matter , like this is to sincerly pray and ask The Holy Ghost to guide in what to do in the matter.
Thanks, Brother Scott! I will pray about it. I'm pretty certain that I won't do it. I don't know what her set up is as I haven't been by the place. If it's a separate gift shop that might be another consideration.
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I would not see the difference in selling liquour scented candles to a chocolate shop with "likkered-up" sweets or a booze shop. Since they are being sold, and since the business is for a profit- a sale is a sale. I would not take them in the liquor store, but would offer wholesale prices if the owner would pick them up.
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This is more what I had in mind. I would have to take the testers by. I used to sell radio commercials for a country station. I never listened to it, but I did sell for them.
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This is more what I had in mind. I would have to take the testers by. I used to sell radio commercials for a country station. I never listened to it, but I did sell for them.
I did not mean to cast you in a bad light, simply responding along the others posts presented here.

I suggest an Amazon shop, where you can sell as many as you can HERE. I will expect royalties, of course.

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I guess I just can't figure out why anyone who doesn't believe in liquor would want to make candles that are liquor scented. I don't mean any disrespect to P.O., but it just makes me curious as to why this was begun in the first place.
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You know...I would think about the appearance of evil...isn't there enough markets to sell your candles than in a liquor store?

Just asking...Rhoni

P.S. Does it have to smell like liquor? What is that about?
Sis. Sherri, I guess us liberals have more standards than people give us credit for

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I did not mean to cast you in a bad light, simply responding along the others posts presented here.

I suggest an Amazon shop, where you can sell as many as you can HERE. I will expect royalties, of course.

BOOMM,

I think PO knows we love her and she obviously wanted our opinions. Many times we can't see the forest for the trees. In taking our liberties sometimes we compromise in areas that we haven't thought about. PO is gracious and kind...she knows we only care about her.

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I did not mean to cast you in a bad light, simply responding along the others posts presented here.

I suggest an Amazon shop, where you can sell as many as you can HERE. I will expect royalties, of course.

Sorry, no royalties for you. You didnt' cast me in a bad light as far as I'm concerned. It's business and needs some consideration. It isn't going to hurt me one way or another if I don't do business with the liquor store.
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BOOMM,

I think PO knows we love her and she obviously wanted our opinions. Many times we can't see the forest for the trees. In taking our liberties sometimes we compromise in areas that we haven't thought about. PO is gracious and kind...she knows we only care about her.

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Thanks, Rhoni for your kind words. If I didn't want to hear the different opinions I wouldn't have posted here. lol! I know you know that - from experience!
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That's a good point. They are liquor scented, so how is selling them in a liquor store going to be a bad witness?

I love candles. Soy ones are my favorite.
HO,
I would like to address the soy issue, which is a bunch of propaganda.

Facts:

There is no such thing as a smoke and soot free candle.
It is about trimming your wick, avoiding drafts and not allowing your candle to smolder after extinguishing.

Soy has white smoke, which isn't as obvious - so much for a candle that is smoke free.

Paraffin is a naturally occurring non-toxic, non reactive solid which naturally exists in petroleum oil. Man does not artificially add or subtract atoms from the molecular chain to create paraffin.


It is refined from the light lubricating oil portion of petroleum and is separated from oil and distilled to remove any impurities or solvent residues, much like you would separate cream into butter.

Other naturally occurring substances related to paraffin are petroleum jelly and mineral oil, both of which have been widely and safely used in the medical, cosmetic and food industries for many many years.

Soy wax is very soft and soap like. It burns poorly in it's pure state. Adding paraffin stabilizes the alternative waxes to produce better quality candles.

You can't squeeze soybeans or palm kernels and make wax. These wax like substances are created by man via a process commonly known as hydrogenation.

These waxes are not simply extracted and separated from natural oils as the manufacturers would like you to believe. They are created by manipulating molecules into chemical chains that don't exist in nature, very similar to the way margarine is made.

Unlike paraffin which is essentially distilled from it's base oil, soy wax is created by manipulating the base oil into a new substance by forcefully attaching an extra hydrogen atom to the chemical chain. Palm and soy oils are hydrogenated at temperatures around 80 degrees Celsius.

Hydrogen is forced through the oil under extreme pressure along with reactive metals such as nickle, which are added as a catalyst to cause the molecular changes necessary to transform the oil into a "wax" like state.


Various solvents are then used to extract the reactive metal and unwanted byproducts from the wax.

Many candle makers represent these waxes as 100% natural alternatives to paraffin. What is in question here is the purity of the refining process and the levels and nature of impurities left in the wax. Especially a big concern about the palm wax production industry which is primarily comes out of Malaysia and is therefore not subject to US candle industry standards.

Very little is known about the properties and combustion by products of these so called "natural waxes".

A paraffin candle, whether scented or not, will primarily produce water vapor and carbon dioxide, the same harmless byproducts humans produce when exhaling.

Statement from the National Candle Association:

Is paraffin wax toxic?

No. Paraffin wax is non-toxic. In fact, paraffin is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for use in food, cosmetics, and medical applications. Food-grade paraffin is commonly used for manufacturing candles.


So much for the soy drama!
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