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Old 10-26-2009, 10:13 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

I can remember as a child asking why Jesus used a ring in his story about the prodigal son. I asked - 'if wearing a ring is a sin, why did Jesus say that the father placed a ring on the hand of his son?'

The answer was that it wasn't a real ring, it was a signet ring.

Yeah, it didn't make sense to me then, either.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:38 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

I still say shame on God for confusing us by using a symbol of His love and mercy that's considered sinful and unholy.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:54 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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I can remember as a child asking why Jesus used a ring in his story about the prodigal son. I asked - 'if wearing a ring is a sin, why did Jesus say that the father placed a ring on the hand of his son?'

The answer was that it wasn't a real ring, it was a signet ring.

Yeah, it didn't make sense to me then, either.
This is right up there with the Romans plucking Jesus's beard because he hadn't shaved for a few days.

You can usually make any verse say anything if converting the original King James English to Greek, then Roman, then Klingon, and finally back to English.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:38 PM
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Re: My point exactly.............

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Funny, you seem to explain away the simple statement.... "nor the wearing of apparel."
"Explain"...not "explain away". I've repeatedly told you that the Greek manuscripts literally transliterates the verse as "wearing of apparel ADORNING."

Sheesh....can you guys & gals not read?
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:40 PM
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Well, that's fine. We can just wear any jewelry that isn't gold or pearly.
Tks. for the concession, but Deut. 7:25 includes silver, Is. 3 mentions "rings" & "bracelets" & so on. The context is ornamentation...not just "gold" & "pearls," though they certainly flow into the topic.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:42 PM
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Re: My point exactly.............

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The point is, saying God doesn't hear sinners prayers is taking the verse out of its context and saying the Bible declares something it actually doesn't.
Just like you have contorted the above words to make the Bible say something it actually does not.
How in the world can one "contort" the word "not"?????????????????????

Silly, & I never said that God doesn't hear sinners prayers. Classical straw man attack.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:45 PM
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It's remarkable how people try to justify there need for jewelry. Looking for legal loopholes to hoop earings. It would be simple just to keep it simple. Simple?

Your hearts know the truth.

Amen. At this point it's just amusing, yet also very sad.

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Old 10-26-2009, 04:50 PM
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It is amazing how people will go to great lengths to attack principle-minded thinking. It tends to lead the mind and heart into uncharted waters where grown-up, mature Christians live, and that is unsettling for some.
Some really great points have already been brought up, but I will ask those that adhere to doctrines condemning jewelry the following questions, if they care to answer:

1. Is jewelry inherently evil? If so, how?

2. Does the Bible teach us spiritual principles, or have we lost the rest of the list of “do’s” and “don’ts”?

3. Is it our duty, or an organization’s duty, to determine the intent of the heart regarding a Christian’s dress preference or their personal style of apparel?
1. Not inherently, just as marajuana isn't inherently evil, but will you also justify partaking of that?

2. Biblical principles is the precise reason why we should reject ornamentation; it walks hand in hand w/ idolatry/paganism & God repeatedly shown His displeasure over it.

3. So, if the song leader got up Sun. morning in a bikini to lead service, would that reflect at all on the condition of her heart? "You shall know them by their fruits."
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:58 PM
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Typical poor scholarship............

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Seems to me that if God was using jewelry figuratively in reference to His goodness and mercy, surely He would have used a symbol that would be more holy, right? Couldn't He have instead spoke about how He adorned His people with (women) long hair, dresses, and (men) long sleeved white shirts and suits with hair above the collar? Why would He use sinful jewelry to convey His love???
How many times do I have to quote the Greek manuscripts to you people? Can you not read?

Jer. 4:30 depicts jewelry in connection w/ a woman of whoredom [& so does another verse in Ezek.]. Will you be consistent & now renounce the practice as you embrace it based upon the same book??????? I doubt it!

I Cor. 11 plainly says that it's a disgrace for a woman to "shorn/cut" her hair & Deut. 22:5 clearly affirms that it's an "abomination to the LORD" to engage in gender cross dressing....of course, I do not expect the rebels on this site to believe the Bible.

Put your erasers up, it'll still be there when you're finished! Sad, very sad.............
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:01 PM
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Sheeeeeeeeeesh, can you read?????

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But that doesn't literally mean 'don't wear apparel' like the statement 'don't wear jewelry' means 'don't wear jewelry'. LOL!
The literal transliteration of this verse says, "the wearing of apparel ADORNING". And the NKJV, NIV, etc. accurately reflects this.

Good grief, what's wrong w/ you people???????????????
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