Mark Driscoll on Contextualization of the Gospel

[deltaguitar]

Keith, just a sideline question, did you find it difficult going to a mainstream college or were they accepting of Oneness doctrine there. I used to read this blog by a guy, Brian Leport, he seemed to changed his views a lot but maybe that was before he went to Western.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Keith, just a sideline question, did you find it difficult going to a mainstream college or were they accepting of Oneness doctrine there. I used to read this blog by a guy, Brian Leport, he seemed to changed his views a lot but maybe that was before he went to Western.

No, I was more concerned about them not thinking we were quacks or cultists. I think they were amazed that we were fundamentalists in every sense of the word, but the used different terminology to describe God. Of course they did have some tritheists among them. But overall it was a good experience.

Of course going there help to broaden my views in some regards, but I was well read before I went there. But it is leap from Bible College to Seminary in the area of scholarship and defending your views, you can't simply say because the Bible says so, they want you to read other opinions and then defend your opinion against other views.

[Kings Kid]

I really don't agree with Mark Driscroll or how he contextulization the gospel. But I notice that you brought up Brian Leport and how his views changed of oneness pentcostalism.He use to be very strong but something changeed his views when he was attending CLC in Stockton.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Kings Kid

I really don't agree with Mark Driscroll or how he contextulization the gospel. But I notice that you brought up Brian Leport and how his views changed of oneness pentcostalism.He use to be very strong but something changeed his views when he was attending CLC in Stockton.

In my opinion CLC didn't change his views, maybe in the since showing a broader understanding of justification, I went through the same process, I still believe the normative experience of repentance towards God, Faith in Jesus, being baptized in Jesus Name, and a conscious receiving of the Holy Spirit as being the full expressionNew Birth of salvation.

Those truths are fundamental and bedrock, the cultural things are at best personal interpretations.

By the way I didn't bring up Brian someone else did, I won't discuss personalities.

[mizpeh]

Keith,

Maybe I missed it, but is there somewhere I can read what you are commenting on?

[Kings Kid]

I realize that you didn't bring Brian Leport up.I know him and it is sad how he has changed his viewpoints.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Kings Kid

I realize that you didn't bring Brian Leport up.I know him and it is sad how he has changed his viewpoints.

I don't know him personally but I followed his blog for a long time. Have you ever asked him why he changed?

I know that many who have gone to CLC changed their minds and though I didn't go to CLC I happened to get the audio from some classes of Dan Seagraves and it changed my life. From that point on I would never be the same.

[Kings Kid]

I wonder if coming from a very conservative pentecostal church changed his viewpoints a little bit.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Kings Kid

I wonder if coming from a very conservative pentecostal church changed his viewpoints a little bit.

Maybe but why go to CLC at all then. My sister and BIL went to CLC and I have been told that out of their whole graduating class only a handfull are still apostolic. I know that if I go back and count the number of people that were apostolic in my life and have left it is really astonishing.

[Apocrypha]

bump

i love driscoll and his Acts 29 network stuff. his youtube videos are a riot also, he deals with just about anything from his pulpit in his "ask the pastor" sermons