But how can the wages of sin be death if he hates the sin but not the sinner..if the wages of sin is death he would have to hate the sinner cause they are the fleshly body commiting the sin...JMO
ho, your defense of these situations is abhorrent.
Then you didn't read all my posts on this thread so far. I wasn't defending their being homosexual. But being one doesn't make a person unable to raise a child properly.
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Absurd. What studies? Are you telling me a child is better off with two dads than a mom and dad?
They don't flaunt? Where do you live exactly?
No, I didn't say that, however, there are lots of moms and dads who don't raise their children right yet that doesn't get as much discussion as homos raising children does, right?
With divorce happening to about half of all marriages, there are lots of children affected. Children are torn from one parent to the next, and the parents tear the children apart to get to the other parent. The children end up in counseling or needing it and never getting it, and they end up being hateful individuals as adults without knowing what a proper bonding relationship is all about.
And I didn't say that NONE of them flaunt it, but the ones who do are the ones that also have multiple partners. For most gays who live in a monogamous relationship, there is no flaunting. There is no need to do so.
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GASP. Are you defending same-sex marriage? I'm confused about your points. You take something else that's awful to seemingly defend the "Modern Family?" I think many of us are confused by what you are intending.
No, I am not defending same-sex marriage. And I've already said that I don't watch gays protrayed on TV, so I'm left to wonder, are you reading my posts thoroughly?
If anyone is confused by my posts, read them again. I believe I'm being quite plain.
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HeavenlyOne, I have a couple of friends who are not openly gay. But everyone has wondered for many, many years. Know what I mean? So the two ladies adopted two children together. They raised them as a family with both of them as mom's. You're right. Neither of them turned out gay. And they are not in prison. But they are very clearly messed up. Seriously. They are such confused young people that you really have to feel bad for them.
Would it have been different if their moms had been openly gay? I don't know. But I doubt it. Especially in a small town like this, people can be very cruel. And you have to know that these two kids endured ALOT of humiliation because of the lifestyle in their homes.
I have no doubt about that, but I know of children that resulted from a mixed marriage who are messed up because of it also and endured humiliation as well. That's life sometimes, and it's not fair.
And whether or not their being messed up is because of the lifestyle, you are right. Who really knows? I believe it's quite possible, really.
I guess my point in this thread is that, while I wouldn't watch it and I don't think it should be portrayed on TV, if gay couples can provide a good home for children who's own parents cannot care for them, then I'm ok with that. It's certainly better than going back to the environment they came from or bouncing around from foster home to foster home, IMO.
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But how can the wages of sin be death if he hates the sin but not the sinner..if the wages of sin is death he would have to hate the sinner cause they are the fleshly body commiting the sin...JMO
KWS. Because He loves us. He will always love us, and he let's us choose our way. We can find true freedom by living how he designed us, in our most optimum sense, or we can have bondage, the false-feeling of liberty (the counterfeit) and choices.
We are not, in our essence, a fleshly body. I can love my child, and still chastise them. I can love them, and do everything I can for them not to make a wreck of their life, but in the end, I can't stop them. There are consequences to decisions, and especially eternal decisions.
Then you didn't read all my posts on this thread so far. I wasn't defending their being homosexual. But being one doesn't make a person unable to raise a child properly.
At least your being more clear about your debate. Let's talk about this. Let's see what studies so far have shown. Shall we?
To be clear, you're supportive of TV shows like Modern Family and their push to change the face of the contemporary family? That's okay with you?
You know, I am not sure I can put a measuring stick to much of what has been said. I think that the heterosexual couples, in and out of the church, have done as much, if not more to destroy the lives of children with infidelity, divorce, remarriage, and acting like it is the 'norm'. To act like what we do is better than the homosexual couples trying to raise and love children is a bit judgmental, don't you think? Kids get the the brunt end of the stick in this post-modern age we live in.
You got that right. I'm going through something right now with my boyfriend's two young children, who are 6 and 7, and have a mother who is downright dumb and ignorant, who makes sure her children remain scared of their father and myself by telling them stupid things like the cops are watching us and going to take us to jail because we are bad, on drugs, alcoholics, and we have AIDS, among other such stupid nonsense. His kids were so scared last week, we had to call the cops out there to assure them that we aren't being watched by them and we aren't going to jail.
Their first counseling appointment is next Friday. In the meantime, we can't stop them from seeing their mother, and she continues frightening those kids and lying to them constantly.
But hey, the rope is just getting tighter around her neck, and we are allowing her to hang herself with it.
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