Is your father a missionary to Liberia or was a missionary there? I remember a Bro. Stewart who came to our church and preached about Monrovia(???) and how he had to hide behind a waterbed because of gunfire. If so, he was and still is I'm sure a great man! I remember being really moved by his burden!
Yes...we actually had to drink the water out of the waterbed...good times They are still on the field.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
I agree with this completely. I've never understood why this 'women shall not cut their hair' rule was not taught in the law of Moses. Nowhere else in the entire Bible is the issue addressed.
It was an unwritten law....like facial hair on men was (BTW how do they handle a woman with a mustache?)....
....and Paul finally addressed this unwritten law and wrote it down so that now it is law lol....
That or "It's a new law"...a New Law? Funny, when a New law is introduced we are told
Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
On the other hand it IS being addressed here in 1Cor...so what do we do with it?
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Ron, is it that you just don't have a good response to what these people say that you have to drone on over and over and over about them "hiding" behind an anonymous name?
Worse than anything? Can you be a little more melodramatic? There are far "worse" things than wanting to have a sense or privacy on the internet in a public forum particularly given draconian tendency of some to "sniff" out certain individuals, label them and orchestrate a campaign against them.
Maybe if some individuals had no fear of reprisals they COULD be more public. Your constant beating a dead horse of "anonymous" names does not help. Why do you need their real identities? How will it help you formulate an intelligent answer?
The truth is it won't and that is exactly the reason why some have chosen anonymity, because of people who demand to know "who you are" so they know who to snub or who to black ball at the next meeting. There are far too many "peer pressure" groups and cabals for some to speak openly without fear of some sort of action against them.
Prax hiding behind anonymity to make accusations is akin to gossip, & innuendo which the Bible has something to say about.
If one can't see that, then I am afraid they are more lost than they realize!
Along with his newfound "Angel Deja Vu" teaching he seems to be teaching that angels administer healings during service also.
None of his assertions, as is customary with Lee, is supported by scripture but rather sensational anecdotes and testimonies.
He also he boasted of a private camping trip he had with Haney and a Haney relative. In the story, he relates that it was a time of spiritual retreat and prayer where they were visited by an angelic visitation perceived by Lee.
Stoneking, along with his Holy Magic Hair doctrine, has for years delved in what many of his peers deem, mistakenly or not, as angel worship.
Sounds like that other guy (I forget his name) who was visited by an angel and started a whole following (I forget the name of the group). All I know is is that one of the states we border to the North (I live in Arizona) is full of his followers.
Prax hiding behind anonymity to make accusations is akin to gossip, & innuendo which the Bible has something to say about.
If one can't see that, then I am afraid they are more lost than they realize!
Truth does not need a disguise!
The guy you quoted referenced a message he heard, not gossip and commented on what he heard, not formed an accusation against someone.
Second if truth does not need a disguise then get off their backs and address the truth. You keep aiming your shots at other board members rather than on the subject, which as I said before leads me to believe you don't have a lot to say about it one way or the other.
BTW, what is your last name? Home address and Phone number so all the crazy people that are on the net can visit you some day?
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The guy you quoted referenced a message he heard, not gossip and commented on what he heard, not formed an accusation against someone.
Second if truth does not need a disguise then get off their backs and address the truth. You keep aiming your shots at other board members rather than on the subject, which as I said before leads me to believe you don't have a lot to say about it one way or the other.
BTW, what is your last name? Home address and Phone number so all the crazy people that are on the net can visit you some day?
Getting my home address & phone # is not impossible, hard, but impossible.
I just gave my info to another poster this morning.
My full name is already posted in this thread.
I seemed to have hit a nerve with this anonymous posting bit, yet I still stand by what I said about gossip & innuendo.
Thing is the rules that AFF are set up on are arbitrary & no longer followed!
And as I said, given the nature of the beast (the cabals and peer groups that have dissenters in their sights) the only way to address certain problems or issues IS by anonymity.
You know, I recall years ago there was a way to report a pastor that was not doing right, to HQ, without identifying yourself. Obviously if someone "outs" a Pastor....especially a big wig in the organization and their identity is revealed, they are screwed, blued and tattood. Sorry but until the worldly political nature of the UPC goes away then I have to support anyone's decision NOT to reveal their identity.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
On the other hand it IS being addressed here in 1Cor...so what do we do with it?
We have to try to determine Paul's intent when writing. To whom was he writing, why, what was he dealing with, etc. It's not an easy passage, that's for sure.
However you view it, I still don't see where it says uncut. It says long. That's the most I can get from it, even if we're taking it as a new law.
This stuff is the devil's business, isn't it? To cause strife, division, and brother against brother. I think everyone should just pray through to grace and mercy.
Prax hiding behind anonymity to make accusations is akin to gossip, & innuendo which the Bible has something to say about.
If one can't see that, then I am afraid they are more lost than they realize!
Truth does not need a disguise!
Gossip and innuendo is gossip and innuendo.... whether you're anonymous or not. Anonymous or not anonymous has nothing to do with anything.
They are still on the field.
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