Apology to World

[Walks_in_islam]

Yeah prax I know. Mention of alters is distasteful to christians. Regular prayers are distasteful to christians. Scheduled fasting is distasteful to christians. Mandatory giving is distasteful to christians.

Got all those points a long time ago.

But not earlier. Earlier you said I said that christians DESPISE these things. Now, you are saying "distasteful" probably because I was gonna clear it up and nail you on it anyway. Which I clearly phrased in terms of Islamic beliefs with "regular" prayers (shall I copy and paste your comments on REGULARly scheduled prayers or shall we agree that you find this concept distasteful?) and SCHEDULED fasting (shall I copy and paste your comments on scheduled fasting or shall we agree that you find this concept distasteful) and MANDATORY giving (shall I copy and paste your comments on mandatory giving (tithing) or shall we agree that you find this concept distasteful?). Do you actually want your stuttering and backpeddling discussions on alters and their significance reposted here? lol

Now - Just WHO used the word DESPISE in that convo anyway? Let me see.....it was on tithing / mandatory giving.

PRAX: You finally got one right. We despise the idea of giving by force.

I did NOT use the word despise. You did. But if I had, then by your own words I would have actually been correct. Not only do you flat put words in my mouth - you put YOUR words. YOUR words in MY mouth leave a bad taste. (aka they are distasteful lol)

The goat was out of line. So was comparing the kabaa cornerstone to a female body part. So was joking with your buddy tom trini about my newborn daughter being a "future terrorist". Whatever you got in return you earned fairly. So come in here with something new and fresh and intelligent because you've already demonstrated what a <redacted> lol on you can be in other places.

Thank you for saving me the time to go get that little blurb from the other forum by the way. I forgot it was there and you are building concrete pillars and arches over my case that you tend to deviate just a bit in your (re)-interpretation of words and what words actually say or said. When you deviate in speech you violate that little scripture I shared with you. This is the end that is spelled out for those who deviate from the truth (ALL of them, even the pentecostal ones who do so) in speech.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

NOTE: When your pentecostal kids are not groping each other in lazer-tag in front of my 8 and 10 year old then they will not earn you a comment. When they do earn you a comment try not to take it so personally. It's the internet prax.

Thank you for your invitation to a pentecostal prayer meeting. I guess it was an invitation. No wonder your ranks are thinning lol

Well tell you what, if you come back to the states call up a local Pentecostal church and ask when they have their prayer meetings and go join them while you pray to Allah.

I stand by my response to your "invitation" and will re-post that one too

We have a much, much more conservative and stricter lifestyle and regimen to follow than you ever will

Why would I choose to pray among those who deviate from the truth in their speech Prax?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I didn't rephrase a single thing. I said YOU said that we Christians find stuff like prayer and fasting "distasteful" and that you precipitated my comments on the "goat"


Then I commented that if you visited a Pentecostal church and ask about their prayer meetings you'd see whether or not we find it distasteful. Then you, again, precipitated my later comments by talking about Pentecostal kids groping one another. My comments were precipitated by yours

[Walks_in_islam]

I am wide awake and knowing you got that one. Your insightful wit in response has validated my smug opinion that you are still, after two days, helplessly (and hopelessly) trying to come up with something intelligent to say about it. PS another day of drooling and giggling and you will be ready for the padded room and straightjacket.

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Dream on. You may have a point but if you keep your hair combed no one will ever suspect!!

[Walks_in_islam]

Good to hear that. The other part of my delusion is that it is not DIFFERENT in either faith to use your place as a religious leader to victimize your followers in spite of all the attempts and words to make it seem so. The only DIFFERENCE is the scale on which it is done and the scale on which it is done in our country is currently limited by the founding fathers who in their wisdom specifically minimized that scale.

Let's play "who said this"

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his OWN HOUSEHOLD

Are the founding fathers who limited the scale and scope of religious persecution, in light of this, effectively antichrist?

???????


I never ever argued that doing anything to children is more acceptable than beating up a poor woman in yours. That again is part of your distortion or delusion[/QUOTE]

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Yeah prax I know. Mention of alters is distasteful to christians. Regular prayers are distasteful to christians. Scheduled fasting is distasteful to christians. Mandatory giving is distasteful to christians.

Got all those points a long time ago.

But not earlier. Earlier you said I said that christians DESPISE these things.

Before I posted this I corrected myself with the word distasteful. You are playing semantics. You still precipitated the rest of the story

[Walks_in_islam]

I am playing "accuracy in e-words" and you corrected yourself because you were highly and specifically advised to do so. You needed some honesty e-slapped into you and you received a slap that you fairly earned (more like a beat-down but you appear to be up before final count so no harm no foul right?). As you fairly earned the rest of those comments.

It's the e-world prax. Nothing personal

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Before I posted this I corrected myself with the word distasteful. You are playing semantics. You still precipitated the rest of the story

[Newman]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._for_isra.html

Here is a great article written by a woman who grew up as a Muslim in Egypt. She has a much different tale to tell than what has been said on this thread.

Although her father was killed by Jewish operatives; her brother was saved because he got to a Jewish hospital. It wasn't until she came to America that she realized how different it was to not live with HATE everyday.

She also has a viewpoint regarding Obama's apology tour. Read the great article cited above.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Newman

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._for_isra.html

Here is a great article written by a woman who grew up as a Muslim in Egypt. She has a much different tale to tell than what has been said on this thread.

Although her father was killed by Jewish operatives; her brother was saved because he got to a Jewish hospital. It wasn't until she came to America that she realized how different it was to not live with HATE everyday.

She also has a viewpoint regarding Obama's apology tour. Read the great article cited above.

Thank you for this link!!! Same information that I studied and posted on the Christianity vs. Islam thread. She confirmed what I studied and posted!

He was in Mecca for 11 years and only had 100 followers. But when Mohammed moved to Medina he became a head of state and a warrior and that was when he had many followers who joined him in the battles and benefited from the bootie and wealth they accumulated. When the Jewish tribes on Medina refused to convert to Islam, they became Mohammad's enemies and thus the Quran verses changed to make them Islam's enemy. From that day, Islam's message was obsessed with killing Jews.

Some Muslims claim that the relationship with Jews turned bad only due to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. That is not true because Muhammad commanded Muslims to kill Jews in the 7th century.

This portion of her interview is the main problem that Israel has with Gaza and the Palestinians.

Egypt started the fedayeen operations against Israel from the Gaza strip.

And this I knew!!!

A major obstacle to understanding between the West and the Muslim world is a Sharia law telling Muslims that Lying (to non-Muslims) is Obligatory if the purpose is Obligatory!! The reference is the Sharia book ‘Reliance of the traveler r8.2'. Thus, if the purpose is jihad (an obligation), then a Muslim must hide his purpose. Unfortunately, very often the West believes the lies. Trust and respect is encouraged to be only between Muslims. Non-Muslim countries are called "Dar Al Harb" meaning "house of war" and lying to them is OK if it is for the benefit of Islam.

[Walks_in_islam]

There are many who have different experiences with different faiths. When those experiences as outlined do not reflect the teachings of the faith they are invalid as examples of the faith itself. This woman by the way is not the only one who has been taught by those who twist the words of Islam into something other than what they actually say.

In Indonesia, where religious freedom is constitutionally protected, the words of Mohammed have not been re-interpreted to "kill jews and infidels or lie to jews and infidels". In Turkey, a member of NATO, the state has not re-interpreted the words of Mohammed to "kill jews and infidels or lie to jews and infidels".

Nor have these words been re-interpreted in other countries around the world where countless muslims live with the EXACT same words from the EXACT same teachings and choose to not "interpret" them that way. Including the millions of Muslims who live and work and raise families in our own country. Including the Muslim country who was the first to recognize our country as an independent nation.

Some Muslims in some countries are brought up in hate and bigotry against other beliefs. Most Muslims are not. The Islamic world reflects that they are not.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I am playing "accuracy in e-words" and you corrected yourself because you were highly and specifically advised to do so. You needed some honesty e-slapped into you and you received a slap that you fairly earned (more like a beat-down but you appear to be up before final count so no harm no foul right?). As you fairly earned the rest of those comments.

It's the e-world prax. Nothing personal

And I am not playing anything. I am addressing the issue you keep trying to change for some reason

You brought up something I posted and I pointed out, several times now, that it was precipitated by YOUR two posts. What word was used is just a semantic game you are playing to change the issue

BTW I wasn't advised to do anything. I looked back at the post to see what word you used, which was totally irrelevant to the point I was making. You are just obfuscating

[Walks_in_islam]

Keep

Sequence of events on "Planet Prax":

Prax: BTW I wasn't advised to do anything

Sequence of events as recorded on my planet:

Prax: It was YOU who first said we Christians despised

THEN

Wii: Now you go and pick through any other posts and pick out the word "despise" and then cut and paste it right here. I'll just sit and wait for that. (adds: the polar ice caps will melt before that happens)

THEN

Prax: it started with your rants about Christians despising prayer and fasting adds: thats why I posted those "rants" above

THEN

Wii: I will politely ask you to cut and paste words from me if you wish to comment on them and not deceptively "re-phrase" them to your own gain. adds: it is also a bad idea to do this with the Bible

You got advised all right. Twice. You looked back and corrected yourself just like you were (politely) advised to do.

Again, you earned it. You are now (again politely) advised to drop it. Whatever point you are or were trying to make is buried in the hole you dug while making it using deceptive words. It is therefore invalid. With that in mind please return with something fresh, new, clever, funny, or original OR please go impress someone with your vocabulary somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

And I am not playing anything. I am addressing the issue you keep trying to change for some reason

You brought up something I posted and I pointed out, several times now, that it was precipitated by YOUR two posts. What word was used is just a semantic game you are playing to change the issue

BTW I wasn't advised to do anything. I looked back at the post to see what word you used, which was totally irrelevant to the point I was making. You are just obfuscating