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Old 06-16-2009, 06:45 PM
Aquila Aquila is offline
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Re: You want to know how it will go in the Judgmen

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I agree. How could they? Sure, a lot of people voted "100% sure" in my poll, but I don't know how they can be so sure. Do they have faith to be healed or heal someone else of sickness, every single time? Probably not. But they somehow know that their faith is good enough to save themselves. Odd, IMO.
I think it's important to know that faith isn't magic to be used at our discretion. Faith is what is necessary to believe the unction of the Spirit when God wants to do something. Many men think of faith as something that gets God moving. No...faith gets us moving. I don't have the faith to heal people. But I pray I have the faith to lay hands on a person when the Spirit speaks and indicates that God desires to heal them.

But I think you're right in your overall premise. I don't think we can be 100% sure of our ultimate salvation.

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Old 06-16-2009, 06:57 PM
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Re: You want to know how it will go in the Judgmen

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Powerful thought.

Here's something I drew from the passage. It's really not all that deep but I'll share.

Jesus said,
John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
I drew from this passage that those who reject Christ, and his Gospel, will be judged according to his word (the Gospel) in the Judgment.



I would like to mention here that I don't necessarily believe in two judgments. Most believe in a Judgment Seat of Christ (often believed to be after the Rapture) and a White Throne Judgment. However, I believe in only one Judgment of all mankind where all, both the righteous and the sinners, are judged. I take this from Christ's parables. The profitable servants and the unprofitable servants were judged together, the sheep and the goats were judged together, the diligent and the slothful servants were judged together, etc. I believe that when Christ calls "curtains" all men will be brought before his throne. Some for reward... and others for severe punishment. All at a single judgment.
I totaly agree with this. Also we do have assurance but that is if we are faithful! Just like Abraham!
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:02 PM
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Actually I believe we can live with assurance of salvation, not simply waiting to die to know if we made it. One of the blessings of receiving the Spirit is proof of our justification and that we have the down payment of the finished work. No need to live in fear or torment, have I made it or not.

Eph. 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[b] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Our assurance is based on us being faithful to the end. Jesus's teachings are very clear on this. He promises are true and faithful it is up to us to respond to his Word and he will give us strength to do so if we choose to follow. In the end God will judge you faithful or unfaithful by your works.
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