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12-10-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Give me a break Elder. KH knew full well what would happen if the resolution passed. They had been threatening to leave for years. Believe me, he counted the cost, and decided it was worth it.
It is folly to believe that no one knew there would be a tiny split. I really see no major impact on the UPC.
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No they just lost major churches and ministries you are like them you are in denial! Just because they got every junior firemarshall they ever gave a fiery testimony in their local churches to get a license to keep the number up is NOT the samae and you know it!
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12-10-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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No they just lost major churches and ministries you are like them you are in denial! Just because they got every junior firemarshall they ever gave a fiery testimony in their local churches to get a license to keep the number up is NOT the samae and you know it!
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Where did you hear that one? 
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12-10-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Three jack leg preachers who never preached a revival or built a church is the same as Wilson-Godair-Booker, Odom sorry I wasn't born yesterday. AND I am NOT a member of the WPF and have NO desire to be.
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12-10-2008, 01:25 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Three jack leg preachers who never preached a revival or built a church is the same as Wilson-Godair-Booker, Odom sorry I wasn't born yesterday. AND I am NOT a member of the WPF and have NO desire to be.
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Have you ever planted a church? 
What percentage left the UPC?
2%?
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12-10-2008, 01:38 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Have you ever planted a church?
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Yes I have and it is still in existance thank you very much. I don't know how many left and don't care HOWEVER high profile men left and their churches.
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12-10-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Yes I have and it is still in existance thank you very much. I don't know how many left and don't care HOWEVER high profile men left and their churches.
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Bro Elpey, did anyone ever tell you how difficult it is to follow your thoughts at times?
When you said "I don't know how many left and don't care", I thought you were talking about the church you started! I had to read your post twice to figure out that you meant you didn't know how many men left the UPC over resolution 4. Just to help us poor readers could you please put thoughts that are not related on separate lines? thanks a bunch
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12-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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What a rare moment we agree. 
Elder Haney anlong with those pushing Res.. 4 never imagined the effect it would have and it ain't over. |
GASP! I'll have to revisit my position to see where I've gone wrong!
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12-10-2008, 02:33 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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Bro Elpey, did anyone ever tell you how difficult it is to follow your thoughts at times?
When you said "I don't know how many left and don't care", I thought you were talking about the church you started! I had to read your post twice to figure out that you meant you didn't know how many men left the UPC over resolution 4. Just to help us poor readers could you please put thoughts that are not related on separate lines? thanks a bunch
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I apologize for my poor grammar. I will attempt to do better. 
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12-10-2008, 02:40 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
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I apologize for my poor grammar. I will attempt to do better. |
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
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12-10-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact?
Charnock, how could KH know that this resolution would barely pass in Tampa? For someone with an agenda, as you claim, to get rid of the "right wing fanatics" as you term them ... he was not very vocal during the 4-5 year span in trying to sway the vote ... nor did he seem to tip his hand. A very calculated risk if you ask me ... just a few more votes and the cons would have had free reign for decades to come.
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I think the role KH had at Christian Life College has not been factored in this discussion thus far. As President ... he hired some of the movement's most divergent free thinkers ... and as the premiere college in the org especially in the last few years ... we are seeing that some of the liberalization of the org is being spearheaded by CLC alumni or others w/ ties to it.
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