You want this to be the original question, but I don't follow it at all once you start throwing in big words.
Seriously, state your question w/o the doctrinal or theological stuff in there. I don't feel like looking it all up to figure out if I can even answer this.
Is the bolded what your actual question is? And, if so, can you clarify please?
I don't have any doctrinal slant in there....
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I don't believe in Calvinism,but I believe in the predeterminate counsel of God.
There is more to this subject than what most people admit or comprehend.
God does know the end from the beginning yet people have to choose to serve him,yet people can't come to God unless His Spirit draws them.
The mercy of God has depths beyond human comprehension.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Ok, so restate the question without the calvin thing and the arm...thing. I don't know what any of that is, I do know enough to know I really don't care enough to go find out. lol
What is your actual question?
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If you do believe in predestination please don't partake in this discussion,
If you don't then please explain where the mind and psychological conditioning plays a roll in your behavior.
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Through election God's purpose might stand.Why did God say Jacob whom I loved but Esau whom I hated I don't know ? to try to figure that out is speculation.
But The Lord says I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will compassion on whom I have compassion.I thank God that He shows himself merciful.
The Bible also says whosever will let Him come,so whoever He draws can come to Him.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Interesting idea. And I'm going to sound ignorant here...but I haven't studied this lately. Is there scriptural evidence that there was no death before the fall? My mind is vaguely remembering there might be something, but not remembering enough to go looking for it.
And, how would a day being longer than a day necessarily equal death happening before the fall? I'm not sure I follow..
Sin brought death. If you have a universe that's 4.6 billion years old, and dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, before man came upon the face of this world 200,000 years ago, then you have death taking place before Adam's sin. All these big numbers are taken from the evolutionist's theory of course, I believe the world is around 6,000 years old.
Sin brought death. If you have a universe that's 4.6 billion years old, and dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, before man came upon the face of this world 200,000 years ago, then you have death taking place before Adam's sin. All these big numbers are taken from the evolutionist's theory of course, I believe the world is around 6,000 years old.
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If the world is 6000 years old, then God played a really funny joke on us by making it look billions of years old.
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I believe in man has a free will, as apparently so did the angels, hence 1/3 fell because of their choice.
I believe in creation not evolution.
I believe man has no idea how old the earth is, only speculations.
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Sin brought death. If you have a universe that's 4.6 billion years old, and dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, before man came upon the face of this world 200,000 years ago, then you have death taking place before Adam's sin. All these big numbers are taken from the evolutionist's theory of course, I believe the world is around 6,000 years old.
-Bro. Alex
Can we not talk about evolution in this thread start a new thread instead of hijacking. BTW you are making ridiculous assumptions in your post that deserve some attention in a new thread, but I am not willing to start a new one and go down that road again, so you do it.
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Can we not talk about evolution in this thread start a new thread instead of hijacking. BTW you are making ridiculous assumptions in your post that deserve some attention in a new thread, but I am not willing to start a new one and go down that road again, so you do it.
Fair enough... So what is the question your wanting to ask? If your wanting a 100% pure Arminian answer- I'm your man! If you want to go in psychological rabbit trails, try Freud's Interpretation of Dreams...
start a new thread instead of hijacking. BTW you are making ridiculous assumptions in your post that deserve some attention in a new thread, but I am not willing to start a new one and go down that road again, so you do it.
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