If our good friends on the other side of the aisle here on AFF were truly convinced that they had a logical, reasonable, understandable and sensible rationale for their support of Obama we would have seen and heard it by now. The absence of the most ardent supporters of the Obama campaign here on AFF is very telling that when asked numerous times to explain their passionate support of this man for president, the answers never materialized.
The reality is that rather than people supporting McCain because they're AGAINST Obama, Obama supporters are supporting him because they are AGAINST Bush/Cheney, the GOP and they have embraced the biased accounts of the Bush presidency via mainstream media, Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Arianna Huffington and the Daily Kos (Kooks), Sean Penn, Oprah, and the celebrity bunch.
There is a reason why young people tend to support the worst of candidates: McGovern, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry. Its because they are young, lack wisdom and experience, they are impressionable, they are heavily inflenced by media and celebrities and pop culture, and they often follow the choices of their peers. There is a reason why elders vote differently: they have lived a while and they understand what real life is all about.
The biblical account of Reheboam's disasterous rise to the throune after his father Solomon died is a case in point. Solomon in order to expand and uild his kingdom had laid heavy taxes on the people. When Reheboam became king after his father's death, the elders approached him and encouraged him to lift the tax burden as a gesture of good faith to the nation. The young men counseled Reheboam to do the opposite: raise the taxes and show the nation who is boss. Consequently Reheboam lost the ten northern tribes over it and Israel was never the same.
The lesson? The voices of wisdom typically come from the aged. When you see a bunch of young people gravitating to something and a bunch of elders doing the opposite, it is a safer bet to follow the wisdom of the elders.
The whys of supporting Obama are weak and stylisitc at best. McCain is the safe choice for our next president. If only the young would humble themselves and listen.........................................
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the aged are not always the wisest, niether are christians always the wisest, else we never would have had civil rights for minorities or voting rights for women.
If you like having a weekend off to go to church....thank a Union. If the industrialists had their way they'd work you like dogs every day of the week.
If you like having a weekend off to go to church....thank a Union. If the industrialists had their way they'd work you like dogs every day of the week.
What?
I have the weekend off and I'm not union and a union has NOTHING to do with me being off.
However, there are plenty of places around here that ARE union and they DO work weekends.
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I have the weekend off and I'm not union and a union has NOTHING to do with me being off.
However, there are plenty of places around here that ARE union and they DO work weekends.
Of course you don't get it. You're too short sighted. At one time labor laws were virtually nill in the United States. It took Unions standing up for workers rights to set a work week and manditory time off. Yes, today most businesses function along these set standards....and yes many union shops have contracts wherein members work weekends. But truth be told....if it wasn't for the labor movement and the stand that Unions took against an abusive labor system you'd be worked like a dog.
If you're thankful for a weekend....thank a Union.
Unions...the people who brought you "the weekend".
Of course you don't get it. You're too short sighted. At one time labor laws were virtually nill in the United States. It took Unions standing up for workers rights to set a work week and manditory time off. Yes, today most businesses function along these set standards....and yes many union shops have contracts wherein members work weekends. But truth be told....if it wasn't for the labor movement and the stand that Unions took against an abusive labor system you'd be worked like a dog.
If you're thankful for a weekend....thank a Union.
Unions...the people who brought you "the weekend".
Unions .... the people who sent our businesses overseas !!!
Thats right, I said it. Unions were good starting out, then they got greedy. Companies had to pay workers more to do less. Well guess what "sunshine". Who do you think pays those higher wages for lower quality goods ? Me and you. The major cause of increase in the price of American goods is the Unions. The reason companies have been out sourcing for years now is because they get the same cheaper from forgien workers. Yes , I'm all for paying the American worker what the worker is worth. But Unions have create a payrate that not only the companies can no longer afford, but neither can the American economy. Want an example? Been to Detroit lately ?
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ahh yes. yet another reason to oppose Barak Obama.
UNIONS.
It is a little known fact that the democrats and Barak Obama plan on passing legislation that will allow unions to force OPEN VOTING.
Basically that means that Union members will not have the basic right of a secret ballot for ANYTHING.
even in Right to Work states, when a union comes in and wants to set up a union in a previously non-union area, the workers will be required to vote openly and without the benifit of casting their balot in private.
anyone see where that is headed?
All in favor say YES, all opposed line up over there so we can break your leg!
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the aged are not always the wisest, neither are Christians always the wisest, else we never would have had civil rights for minorities or voting rights for women.
DM: Does this mean you are going to provide a lucid list of reasons why you are voting for Barack Obama? And no fair maligning the opponent--just be supportive of your guy.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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Unions .... the people who sent our businesses overseas !!!
Thats right, I said it. Unions were good starting out, then they got greedy. Companies had to pay workers more to do less. Well guess what "sunshine". Who do you think pays those higher wages for lower quality goods ? Me and you. The major cause of increase in the price of American goods is the Unions. The reason companies have been out sourcing for years now is because they get the same cheaper from forgien workers. Yes , I'm all for paying the American worker what the worker is worth. But Unions have create a payrate that not only the companies can no longer afford, but neither can the American economy. Want an example? Been to Detroit lately ?
I don't deny that unions have gotten greedy. Union leadership in my union provided a video on Hormel and how they blew it and lost all their jobs when the factory moved out of town. The leadership emphasized the need to negotiate and actually compromise with management....because a compromise is far better than loosing a job.
DM: Does this mean you are going to provide a lucid list of reasons why you are voting for Barack Obama? And no fair maligning the opponent--just be supportive of your guy.
I've already listed my reasons on another deacon thread. I don't think listing reasons is going to change anyone's view. I'm just here having fun.
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