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Old 08-22-2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

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I would kindly ask him if he penned those words himself, or if he wouldn't mind naming the author. Just to see what he'd say about it...LOL!

Too bad I'm not a member there or I'd do it for ya!!
Lol, no, it's ok.

I was going to send him a message, but he doesn't have his page set up for messages. And, I won't post something like that publicly. Maybe someone will read the message and say, hey, my friend preached that! Lol.

Actually, that's what I worry about - if someone sees his name on it, and then later sees MY name somewhere else, they might think I took it from HIM!
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:07 AM
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A few years ago when I was pastoring, I posted several of my messages on a website called www.preachit.org. Obviously, I am no longer pastoring, but I still get calls quite frequently from preachers all over the country thanking me for the messages, etc. I am very happy that even though I'm not preaching them, they are still being broadcast and being a blessing to others.

Today I logged onto EA, and was scanning the front page. I was quite surprised to see one of my sermon titles listed on the right side of the page, and I thought, "Hmm, maybe someone posted it from the other website".

Well, I clicked on it, and it was my message - word for word, but another preacher had taken credit for it!

Now, I don't mind telling you, I was a bit miffed. But, should I have been? I never copywrited the message, so maybe I really can't complain.

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Old 08-22-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

My understanding is that you don't have to do anything explicit to copyright your own work. It is automatic. No need to register it anywhere. It's good practice to include a copyright notice in your work, but even that isn't legally required. (That's my understanding, anyway.)
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:09 AM
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Lol, no, it's ok.

I was going to send him a message, but he doesn't have his page set up for messages. And, I won't post something like that publicly. Maybe someone will read the message and say, hey, my friend preached that! Lol.

Actually, that's what I worry about - if someone sees his name on it, and then later sees MY name somewhere else, they might think I took it from HIM!
LOL!

Maybe I'll sign up as a member and say to him, Hey, my friend Bro. Phelps preached that once. I knew that message was too good for him to have penned himself!!


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Old 08-22-2008, 11:14 AM
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Nice ways to put this are;

- It is always proper to give attribution when using someone elses material
- Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

The reality is;

-Putting your name on a written manuscript or transcript from a sermon that is not yours is LYING and you need to repent!!!!!!!
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:35 PM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

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I think someone should give credit where credit is due. Everyone borrows from someone, but to take it word for word and claim authenticity is just wrong and deceitful. I guess only in Christian circles is it acceptable........not in my book though!
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:40 PM
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Nice ways to put this are;

- It is always proper to give attribution when using someone elses material
- Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

The reality is;

-Putting your name on a written manuscript or transcript from a sermon that is not yours is LYING and you need to repent!!!!!!!
Ok, so when I read this, I thought it was a sermon that had been preached.

MP if this is a print manuscript of your sermon notes, that he got, then changed the authorship to himself and offered it that way on the internet... and you can prove that, its plagerism and I just might call his hand.

Now if he preached your sermon and linked to his version, I likely wouldnt do anything.

while it isnt law, we certainly have a stong tradition against plagerism.
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

does the name joe biden come to mind, it is plagerism in its purist form, must have been a good sermon mp, dt
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:47 PM
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Ok, so when I read this, I thought it was a sermon that had been preached.

MP if this is a print manuscript of your sermon notes, that he got, then changed the authorship to himself and offered it that way on the internet... and you can prove that, its plagerism and I just might call his hand.

Now if he preached your sermon and linked to his version, I likely wouldnt do anything.

while it isnt law, we certainly have a stong tradition against plagerism.
It is printed.

I have the date I posted it on the other website, which was around 2002, and then there is the date he posted it on EA, which is like yesterday!

However, I'm not out for blood, mainly I was out for a sanity check.......I don't want to be carnal about this!
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Re: What would you do in this case?

hey mp all normal people would feel the way you do, and the little twit that did that should come clean, dt
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