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Old 08-18-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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Having more faith than that doesn't get it done faster, better, or done at all.
What proof do you have that it doesn't?

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And sure. I've had lots of faith, and I've had hardly any faith, but when results were seen, there's no difference in the outcome.
Maybe not for you, but the outcome for me has been fantastic and it was a big difference.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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I don't care how much faith ones has, pain is pain, if your hurting bad enough you'll seek help, if your wise and smart. Sometimes the body requires medical intervening, nothing wrong with that or lack of ones faith. Pain is a way of saying something wrong !

When I was in labor epidural, I tried to go without but pain is pain it was to great, I think God for epidurals !

Kidney stones, morphine, again pain is pain.

CCI Thank God he took notice something was not right, he felt off, sure enough appendicitis, good thing he didn't shrug it off, thing is he could be 6ft under today instead he at home with his family as should be, thanks to medical help.
You don't think that God can take care of these things without seeing a doctor or taking medication?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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You are going to school and your wife works, is that correct?

Not sure how you can say you trust God completely if that's the case....according to your own words, that is.
Uh, what'd ya hafta go there for?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:10 PM
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Uh, what'd ya hafta go there for?
She went there because she had nothing better to say.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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You don't think that God can take care of these things without seeing a doctor or taking medication?
Yep He sure can, but we have a choice! I choose to seek help, the body did the rest, it passed the baby and the stone.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:18 PM
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There's a scripture that talks about "the" measure of faith. Brother OM has already posted another scripture that talks about "great" faith. You seem to be losing this part of the argument, Sister. Quit while you're ahead.
You hate it when I tell you that you are missing the point, but you are.

I have asked for proof that a measure of faith produces a better outcome. All I'm getting is 'Jesus said it, argue with Him', yet there is no scripture showing that measurable faith, other than having a mustard seed grain worth, gets better results.

In addition, I'm not convinced that the 'great faith' mentioned is speaking of a measurable faith, although it could be. To me, it's like telling someone you had 'a great time'. It's not measurable terms.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:19 PM
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That doesn't have anything to do with the subject. Nice sidestep though.



Of course you can't see it, because you need to think outside of the box.
I'll agree with the sidestep comment! LOL!

You are a pro!
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:20 PM
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Yep He sure can, but we have a choice! I choose to seek help, the body did the rest, it passed the baby and the stone.
Sister, we had two different doctors tell us getting an epidural wasn't good for the baby. The drug is great for the woman, but the baby gets it too. It has a tendency to make the baby very sluggish and extends labor time for the woman. As for the stones, I have heard them buggers hurt like there's no tomorrow. They couldn't use that ultrasonic method they have of pulverizing the stones?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:20 PM
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I don't care how much faith ones has, pain is pain, if your hurting bad enough you'll seek help, if your wise and smart. Sometimes the body requires medical intervening, nothing wrong with that or lack of ones faith. Pain is a way of saying something wrong !

When I was in labor epidural, I tried to go without but pain is pain it was to great, I think God for epidurals !

Kidney stones, morphine, again pain is pain.

CCI Thank God he took notice something was not right, he felt off, sure enough appendicitis, good thing he didn't shrug it off, thing is he could be 6ft under today instead he at home with his family as should be, thanks to medical help.
Agreed.

And I don't believe for a minute that OM has never taken meds for any reason. I think he just likes to talk and hope others are listening....LOL!
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:21 PM
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What proof do you have that it doesn't?



Maybe not for you, but the outcome for me has been fantastic and it was a big difference.
So, having faith the size of a mustard seed didn't work that well for you?

That's unbiblical.
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