Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
I don't know if I'm a conservative or a liberal... got the Bill Price syndrome..
Not true. Bill knows EXACTLY what he is on any given day. (It just could change between that day and the next)
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW
Well if we're being honest. I was at one point. Years ago when some dear folks to me first changed, but not any longer.
And I continue to live as I live, unto the Lord. Not hoping to be a witness to anyone other than the 'neighbour' who has never heard the Gospel.
I have close family and friends who would be under the label liberal... it doesn't affect our relationship as family and friends.
I don't agree with everything they do. They know that, they know why, we don't discuss it any further.
It just occurred to me that I have not thanked you for this honest response.
Thank you!
It is my desire that more conservatives be so without being caustic. It really is counterproductive IMHO to have the expectation that all must be like us OR ELSE...
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
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I have observed some conservatives are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more liberated than they are themselves.
As a conservative:
1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more liberal lifestyle? No
2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in slacks and earrings, or a man in shorts
worships God with you at church? No. I usually stand with my eyes closed.
3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle? No. I never have done that, and I don't plan on starting. I did have one lady ask me during choir practice about a certain type of clothing, and I responded by telling her maybe she should ask our pastor.
4. Are you content to show your more conservative lifestyle as appealing, or do you feel compelled to inform them they are mislead? I have not felt compelled to inform anyone that they have been mislead.
[COLOR="Red"] However I do feel compelled to go out into the highways and hedges and compell them to come in .....Luke 14:13.[/COLOR="Red"}
Excellent! Thank You for responding.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Yes, this is about standards.... you can leave if you have had your fill.
I have observed some conservatives are very uncomfortable with Christians (or even non-Christians for that matter) who are more liberated than they are themselves.
As a conservative:
1. Do you feel anger or a rightous indignation when around those with a more liberal lifestyle?
Hoove, I feel this from conservatives in principal, I haven't actually been around to hear any of what they say about my so called liberal lifestyle...whatever the sam hill that is.
2. Do you feel extremely distracted or irritated when a women in slacks and earrings, or a man in shorts
worships God with you at church?
Interestingly enough women could care less if they see me in shorts it is the men who get indignant.
3. Do you feel it is your duty to tell other other Christians they are wrong and you are right in lifestyle?
If someone tells me my lifestyle is wrong, I will make a request to go and look in their closets being they feel so free to make kneejerk judgements just based on what they see...Again, I am not sure I understand the Lifestyle thing.
4. Are you content to show your more conservative lifestyle as appealing, or do you feel compelled to inform them they are mislead?
They do this all the time. I am amazed how they can dress in the longs in the stiffling summer heat.
Disclaimer: Concerning dress and adornment my family and I live quite conservatively - even by UPC standards. My wife and children have long hair (even uncut) and they do wear skirts rather than pants. We wear very little jewelry and my own ears aren't pierced etc... But we do not look down on others - niether in word or practice. We have had many discussions in our community about our modest dress (partly due to the TV show we were part of) but never with the attitude of superiority because of our choices.
Hoove, see my comments above from maybe a different point of view unless someone has already done this.
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
It just occurred to me that I have not thanked you for this honest response.
Thank you!
It is my desire that more conservatives be so without being caustic. It really is counterproductive IMHO to have the expectation that all must be like us OR ELSE...
It is counterproductive to be caustic... I completely concur and like the alliteration too.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
It just occurred to me that I have not thanked you for this honest response.
Thank you!
It is my desire that more conservatives be so without being caustic. It really is counterproductive IMHO to have the expectation that all must be like us OR ELSE...
Obviously liberal "We are the World" drivel. I bet when you were young you just loved that old Coca Cola jingle "I'd like to teach the world to sing....."
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
They've been liberated from their walk with God.
Do I become irate with their decision, no, it's their choice.
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Hoove, see my comments above from maybe a different point of view unless someone has already done this.
Carp, perhaps it's a good thing that church folks get indignant with you when you don't measure up...
As you can see there are worse things...
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Re: Do Liberals Incite a Negative Response in You?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Obviously liberal "We are the World" drivel. I bet when you were young you just loved that old Coca Cola jingle "I'd like to teach the world to sing.....":tease
You pegged me. I also, sang daily renditions of "It's a small world after all" while plowing with the mules.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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