Calling all PAJCers: When does Justification and Remission Happen?

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Who said anything about mental assent ... it never fails ... your side will always go into the bag of tricks and quips when faced w/ the Word ... like you just believe in mental assent .... NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our master, TBP is Jesus Christ ... this is the Gospel of Jesus Christ... unless your alluding to my master and gospel belong to someone else ... ??

Dan, yak in circles, yak in a straightline, yak about whatever you feel to yak about.

If you extend any action in agreement with what has been provided it somehow smells like a work that then links work with salvation.

Mental assent is the closest, non-action idea to use in a discussion board exchange. Please, the drama you brought in that "your side" stuff has reached cliche' status.

Dan, your willingness to engage discussion boards will no doubt out last mine.

Tell me Dan, what is God's ordained purpose for water baptism since according to the gospel of Dan, it has NOTHING to do with salvation?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Tell me Dan, what is God's ordained purpose for water baptism since according to the gospel of Dan, it has NOTHING to do with salvation?

Again you have put words in my mouth ... it's somewhat frustrating to carry a conversation w/ you ... TBP ...

What is God's ordained purpose for the Lord's supper? I think that's where you'll find the answer ....

Neither the Lord's Supper or Baptism ... write it down .... so you don't forget ... CAUSE SALVATION

Our salvation is in jeapordy if we willfully choose to disobey any of God's commandments ... baptism, loving our neighbor, etc, etc, etc.

Does loving you neighbor cause salvation ??????

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Again you have put words in my mouth ... it's somewhat frustrating to carry a conversation w/ you ... TBP ...

What is God's ordained purpose for the Lord's supper? I think that's where you'll find the answer ....

Neither the Lord's Supper or Baptism ... write it down .... so you don't forget ... CAUSE SALVATION

Our salvation is in jeapordy if we willfully choose to disobey any of God's commandments ... baptism, loving our neighbor, etc, etc, etc.

Does loving you neighbor cause salvation ??????

AND THIS FOLKS IS THE STYLE OF THE DAN.

NO answer that can be plainly read.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by tbpew

AND THIS FOLKS IS THE STYLE OF THE DAN.

NO answer that can be plainly read.

You sir need to re-read it ... again ... and make inferences .... it's a reading skill.

[Felicity]

The mental assent argument is dumb.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Again you have put words in my mouth ... it's somewhat frustrating to carry a conversation w/ you ... TBP ...

What is God's ordained purpose for the Lord's supper? I think that's where you'll find the answer ....

Neither the Lord's Supper or Baptism ... write it down .... so you don't forget ... [B]CAUSE SALVATION

Our salvation is in jeapordy if we willfully choose to disobey any of God's commandments ... baptism, loving our neighbor, etc, etc, etc.

Does loving you neighbor cause salvation ??????

Dan,

I understand what you are saying about baptism being a commandment, but you know I disagree with you that it's only a commandment and nothing else. You seem to willfully lay aside other scriptures that teach baptism is for something...salvation, circumcision, a figurative burial with Christ, remission of sins, the removing of the body of sin, a washing, part of regeneration, part of being born again...... Why do you lay aside these other important aspects of baptism?

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You sir need to re-read it ... again ... and make inferences .... it's a reading skill.

dan,
I have repeatedly stated what I believe is the purpose of water baptism in our response to hearing.

you dan have not helped the reader understand what the purpose is.

dan, you seem to demonstrate considerable skill for a kind of rhetorical circling. I am not trying to receive from you, I am asking for you to tell the reader...according to the gospel of Dan,

what is the purpose for God's word commanding water baptism?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Felicity

The mental assent argument is dumb.

You're not kidding!!!!!!!!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by tbpew

dan,
I have repeatedly stated what I believe is the purpose of water baptism in our response to hearing.

you dan have not helped the reader understand what the purpose is.

dan, you seem to demonstrate considerable skill for a kind of rhetorical circling. I am not trying to receive from you, I am asking for you to tell the reader...according to the gospel of Dan,

what is the purpose for God's word commanding water baptism?

You missed it ... then ... in case you forgot to read it ... or casually glanced at it .... this post to you in this thread tells about how baptism identifies us w/ Christ

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...&postcount=261

I also made reference to what it signifies ... earlier ... if it doesn't match your baptismal regenerationist view ... that's an entirely different story.

And also said this:

What is written here is not to take away from the importance of baptism. I want to make it unequivocally clear that I believe that baptism is necessary for every Christian. It is not optional. It is a holy command of our Lord and His Apostles that each and every Christian should be baptized. What I am saying is that baptism is not the means to salvation.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You're not kidding!!!!!!!!!!

tell you what dan,
you come up with another phrase or word that means.....
I did absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, I mean nothing, I have no role in any thing God provided, none.

If I [Dan] was a Israelite I would not have had to:
prepare a passover supper
borrow from the eqyptians
slay a lamb
put the blood on the doorposts

I would not have had to get my stuff together and leave
I would not have had to stop when the pillar stopped and move when the pillar moved
I would not have had to wait while the winds blew
I would not have had to walk across on dry land

I would have just stayed in Egypt and watched God condemn my slave masters to death.

So, Dan and Fellicity,
sorry, I explained what mental assent gets used as a phrase.

Dan, Felicity,
Is God a respector of persons,
why did he put those Israelites through so much actions that required following, to receive his provision, but for you good folks, nothing is required?