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The fact that Jesus "was a Jew" offers no support to Judaism, which is formed more on tradition and human translation of scripture than scripture itself. Jesus totally upset their religion, and revealed it for what it was...faulty, manmade, and pharisaical in nature.
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03-27-2007, 09:20 AM
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Jesus was a law abiding Jew ... He do not come to do away w/ it but to fulfill it ... He did not quarrel w/ the Torah ... he quarreled w/ those would interpret the Torah ... in the manner the Pharisees did ...
He attended synagogue/temple .... as did Jewish Apostles even after their conversion ... or do you think they simply attended to cause trouble ... they would go according to the bible ... TO WORSHIP
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03-27-2007, 09:28 AM
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God made some serious and binding promises to Abraham about his sons .... some for perpetuity.
For us as gentiles ... to sit here and decide if some are in false religion or if some are saved is OUTRIGHT RIDICULOUS.
We have been grafted into the VINE ... they weren't excessed.
God is dealing differently w/ them ... we would best live according to this better covenant ...
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03-27-2007, 09:31 AM
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Jesus was a law abiding Jew ... He do not come to do away w/ it but to fulfill it ... He did not quarrel w/ the Torah ... he quarreled w/ those would interpret the Torah ... in the manner the Pharisees did ...
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Which is exactly what the seminary in the article has done...they have interpreted with human philosophies and logic rather than godly principles and laws, so why are all your posts on this thread reading like knee-jerk reactions rather than a response to the actual topic and original article????
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-27-2007, 09:39 AM
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And if ye be Christ's ,then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.GAL.3:29 So whoever is in Christ is Abraham's seed.
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.He saith not ,And to seeds as of many,And to thy seed which is Christ.GAL.3:16
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03-27-2007, 09:40 AM
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I agree .... with you Miss Brattfield ... this is against God's Laws .....
but this does not apply to the whole of the Jewish people ... it's one radical outpost in the heart of den of evil ... NYC.
I am responding to notion however that somehow aspects of Judaism are false and no longer part of God's plans .....
Many of the Jewish Apostles were Christians who kept many of the ceremonial laws ... and although Paul did not bind gentiles to such practices ... he kept them.
Acts 21:
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.
18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.
20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
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03-27-2007, 10:05 AM
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Judaism today is a False Religion based on Mysticism
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
The fact that Jesus "was a Jew" offers no support to Judaism, which is formed more on tradition and human translation of scripture than scripture itself. Jesus totally upset their religion, and revealed it for what it was...faulty, manmade, and pharisaical in nature.
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Scott and Miss Bratt - I have been saying this for years and cannot believe that so many "Apostolics" have been caught up in the acceptance of the Jews as "God's Chosen People". They were once - but GOD DIVORCED THEM! They are NOT SAVED. They are Ungodly for the most part and even the most orthodox among them are totally perverted. When you start talking with them and reading and studying them - they are twisted and perverted. The Rabbi's of today are no more than fortune tellers - witchcraft workers - They even call themselves - Mystics!
Judaism today for the most part is a religion based on Mysticism and is not based on the Word of God.
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03-27-2007, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Scott and Miss Bratt - I have been saying this for years and cannot believe that so many "Apostolics" have been caught up in the acceptance of the Jews as "God's Chosen People". They were once - but GOD DIVORCED THEM! They are NOT SAVED. They are Ungodly for the most part and even the most orthodox among them are totally perverted. When you start talking with them and reading and studying them - they are twisted and perverted. The Rabbi's of today are no more than fortune tellers - witchcraft workers - They even call themselves - Mystics!
Judaism today for the most part is a religion based on Mysticism and is not based on the Word of God.
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I am not anti-semitic but the Talmud and Kabballa are ungodly books.
When the Jews were in Babylonian captivity alot of them brought Babylonian teachings with them.The OT.goes from a physical seed to a spiritual seed in the NT.Of course the Unbelieving Jews were cut off only due to their unbelief, just like any one else who rejects Christ.
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03-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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I am not surprised at all. Seeing how things are going in the world, it is a whole lot more messed up then most of us realize.
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Vancouver certainly is.
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03-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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Vancouver certainly is.
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Surrey to hear that! 
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