Does no one accept responsibility any more?

[nathan_slatter]

And another thing:

While we're on socialism -- I can't STAND corporate socialism. That printing of several million dollars to help JPMorgan bail-out BearStearns is just sickening. Our dollar was hit hard because of this stupidity. If a corporation does stupid stuff that causes itself problems -- it should be afraid. Otherwise, these corporations won't be afraid to make off with my hard earned money that I don't agree to let them have. Thievery I tell you, thievery!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

Isn't access an issue in Canada, Bro.? This is what I have heard, anyway. I've heard that it can take a long time to get in to see a doctor for some illnesses. I have also heard that there aren't as many treatment options in the Canadian health system.

I could see a doctor in the clinic, ER, or my GP, all on the same day if need be.
Now seeing a Specialist is a little more difficult, but not because of what you might think.

Worldwide there is a shortage of GP's Nurses & medical personal.

There is just to much demand for them.

The competition isn't just from the States, but the Middle East has a lot of cash
to entice people.

As for treatment, I know we have one of the top Cancer research and treatment centres in North America.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera

those words make me feel all warm and toasty inside.

Ok. Now I know who you are! My pm was right on target!.

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

And another thing:

While we're on socialism -- I can't STAND corporate socialism. That printing of several million dollars to help JPMorgan bail-out BearStearns is just sickening. Our dollar was hit hard because of this stupidity. If a corporation does stupid stuff that causes itself problems -- it should be afraid. Otherwise, these corporations won't be afraid to make off with my hard earned money that I don't agree to let them have. Thievery I tell you, thievery!

weeellllllll......


in that event, the bottom line is, the officers and investors of Bear Sterns took a bath. they lost billions of dollars over one weekend.

the only thing that got saved were the people whos money was in that bank.

Bear Sterns was NOT saved. it disappeared in the twinkling of an eye.

it did prevent a major "Poofining" of billions of dollars in that bank....


but I feel ya....

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Rico

*GASP* I am offended!!! You know I am an insurance agent!!! How could you?

Actually, I didn't...

Originally Posted by Rico

Just kiddin! I agree there's a lot that needs to change. However, people have a tendency to forget that insurance companies are in business to make money, not take care of people. I am more of a consumer minded insurance agent than a company minded insurance agent. I believe very strongly in educating people on what they are and aren't paying for. I also believe in placing people with the company that will best serve their needs, even if that means I will make less money from the commission. It's a shame I don't have the money to open my own agency because I know it would be successful.

If more conscientious people would go into the business I'm sure we'd all benefit. It would create more competition. It's like politics. Only the snake-oil salesmen run for office (or a majority of them are) and the only way to change that is for us normal folk to run for office -- and I don't have the wherewithal to deal with all the junk that I would have to deal with in order to make a difference.

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

And another thing:

While we're on socialism -- I can't STAND corporate socialism. That printing of several million dollars to help JPMorgan bail-out BearStearns is just sickening. Our dollar was hit hard because of this stupidity. If a corporation does stupid stuff that causes itself problems -- it should be afraid. Otherwise, these corporations won't be afraid to make off with my hard earned money that I don't agree to let them have. Thievery I tell you, thievery!

speaking of corporate socialism.

I dont like the fact that when I go buy stuff, a good chunk of the money stuff costs me is actually another taxation.

the government taxes businesses a corporate income tax rate, which they pass along to the consumer. hidden taxes. bad for me.

businesses should not be taxed and should not expect anything from the government in the form of welfare either.

Our Founding Fathers didn't use income taxes to fund the government. They used tariffs in addition to excise taxes on trade and business.

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Our Founding Fathers didn't use income taxes to fund the government. They used tariffs in addition to excise taxes on trade and business.

Hamilton would have challenged you to a duel and shot your noggin off.

George Washington would have taken off his specticles and given a stirring speach on why you were wrong.

Thomas Jefferson would have written a scathing letter about how you were perverting all they sacrificed for

Madison would have written fifteen more letters on federalism to make sure your view never got off the ground and

John Quincy Adams would have had you tossed in Jail!

IM WITH JQA!

Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera

Hamilton would have challenged you to a duel and shot your noggin off.

George Washington would have taken off his specticles and given a stirring speach on why you were wrong.

Thomas Jefferson would have written a scathing letter about how you were perverting all they sacrificed for

Madison would have written fifteen more letters on federalism to make sure your view never got off the ground and

John Quincy Adams would have had you tossed in Jail!

IM WITH JQA!

OK wise guy....how did they fund the government? They didn't have the income tax back then.

For the record...the founders were against taxation without representation...not all taxation or tarriffs.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

Actually, I didn't...



If more conscientious people would go into the business I'm sure we'd all benefit. It would create more competition. It's like politics. Only the snake-oil salesmen run for office (or a majority of them are) and the only way to change that is for us normal folk to run for office -- and I don't have the wherewithal to deal with all the junk that I would have to deal with in order to make a difference.

Even the honest politicians (if you can find one) eventually find it very difficult to resist the temptation to become corrupt. I was friends with the sheriff of this county I used to live in. He ended up getting elected as a state senator. I asked him what it was like and he told me he could not believe how easy it would be to get anything he wanted. New cars, money, special priveleges, anything: just to get him to vote a certain way.