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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
This is excellent instruction!
When the those at the altar are told to repent if they have not, does someone lead them in a sinner's prayer or what type of instruction is given to them on repentance?
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He leads them in a prayer of repentance. But before anyone criticizes that, let me say that I've seen many of them with tears streaming down their faces as they pray that prayer. Some of them have no clue how to even pray, so they need instructing.
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05-15-2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I would not go so far as saying it all falls under "false teaching" - that comes with rather heavy implications - just that it is outside of biblical precedent.
The same can be said about telling people they should expect to speak in tongues, or other mood setting with music, prayer language etc...
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Sorry if that sounded harsh; I didn't mean it that way. I just think that it was not right teaching. Is that better?
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05-15-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
You sought the Holy Ghost or you sought speaking in tongues? They are not the same.
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Well, I thought I was seeking the Holy Ghost, but of course knowing that tongues accompanies it, I was probably seeking tongues too. I would get so frustrated because I was doing everything I could possibly do to live right and serve God. I know I wore out the saints for years! LOL!
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05-15-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by Sherri
He leads them in a prayer of repentance. But before anyone criticizes that, let me say that I've seen many of them with tears streaming down their faces as they pray that prayer. Some of them have no clue how to even pray, so they need instructing.
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Jesus knew He had to teach people to pray. In reality not all people who are wanting to receive the Holy Ghost know how to pray about it unless someone teaches them. That is not the same as teaching them to speak in tongues. The Holy Ghost teaches us how to speak in tongues.
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05-15-2008, 11:16 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Jesus knew He had to teach people to pray. In reality not all people who are wanting to receive the Holy Ghost know how to pray about it unless someone teaches them. That is not the same as teaching them to speak in tongues. The Holy Ghost teaches us how to speak in tongues.
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Exactly. There has been quite a bit of criticism on here in the past over "praying the sinner's prayer", but it is actually quite effective if the people are sincere. After all, repentance just means a change of mind and change of direction. It doesn't necessarily mean a lot of emotion, although sometimes that accompanies it.
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05-15-2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Exactly. There has been quite a bit of criticism on here in the past over "praying the sinner's prayer", but it is actually quite effective if the people are sincere. After all, repentance just means a change of mind and change of direction. It doesn't necessarily mean a lot of emotion, although sometimes that accompanies it.
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Yes, that is so true. One of my sons and his wife did just that. Turned from some hard sin and are living for God, in a Baptist church, they love the Word of God, have a great prayer life, and are teaching their children. I just pray for them to get the revalation of all truth, including baptism in Jesus name.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-15-2008, 11:25 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Yes, that is so true. One of my sons and his wife did just that. Turned from some hard sin and are living for God, in a Baptist church, they love the Word of God, have a great prayer life, and are teaching their children. I just pray for them to get the revalation of all truth, including baptism in Jesus name.
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If you love them and acknowledge that they really have a walk with God where they are, they will be open to listening to more truth. People are turned off when they think others consider them "unsaved" in their walk with the Lord.
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05-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
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Originally Posted by Sherri
If you love them and acknowledge that they really have a walk with God where they are, they will be open to listening to more truth. People are turned off when they think others consider them "unsaved" in their walk with the Lord.
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Bingo!
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05-15-2008, 11:49 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
Since I've been in Pentecost forevvveerr I've seen or heard lots of things. In the 50's I never saw or heard anything that I would considern unbiblical.
Altar calls were given for people to seek for the HG. I never witnessed any one "teaching" how to speak. I did see those trying to help someone receive by lifting their hands, screaming in their ear etc.
Personally, I was young, 11, and during a great camp meeting at Leisure Lake, WI just went forward (with others) during the annointed singing of the camp evangelist & wife. The power just came down! Several received the HG that night. The preacher never did get to preach. I confess I don't remember who it was. (July 22, 1960)
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05-15-2008, 11:56 PM
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Re: Teaching To Speak In Tongues
Several years ago I attended some Women's Aglow services. They would ask everyone to pray in their prayer language. I wasn't comfortable with this since I didn't think you could just "turn a switch".
I did see good worship and ladies who loved God. It was interesting. Many of their methods were probably fine but since I was totally indoctrinated by the UPC and ABI as to worship style etc it was somewhat strange.
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