Teaching To Speak In Tongues

[POWERUP]

My bad Rico. I wasn't taught that indepth.

[ManOfWord]

Sadly, I had this happen to me before I received the HG on my own. It was at a youth rally and the evangelist and the pastor of the church tried to get me to repeat after them. People were rocking me back and forth etc. I was really ticked because I thought that this HG "thing" was supposed to be between me and God. I took great offense that someone thought they could "give" it to me or get me to speak in tongues. I thought it was about the HG and not ab out tongues. It really confused me being a 3 month old convert. I almost punched the preacher who grabbed me by the throat and was screaming in my ears! (seriously) I was saved, but I was only "freshly" saved.

I received the HG by myself with no one telling me what to do or what to say. If it's real, then no one has to "tell" you what to say.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I also have an acquaintance that went to CLC is Stockton (about 5 - 6 years ago) that said during a service the leader just told everyone to start speaking in tongues. She said it was really weird, because many did. I never knew you could turn on tongues. I always thought they were "as the Spirit gave utterance".

I witnessed this in a large meeting for the first time last year... I tried to join them for a minute or two... then opted to step out for a double espresso. I hope they were all blessed, because I know I was.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Really sad. We really need to get all the OP groups together and make a bold statement about this

It likely will not happen. There are various takes on this.

I am not sure that most "altar work" beyond the biblical "laying on of hands" isn't counter-productive.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I witnessed this in a large meeting for the first time last year... I tried to join them for a minute or two... then opted to step out for a double espresso. I hope they were all blessed, because I know I was.

My issue with this type of activity is not praying in tongues by choice, but doing it in a large meeting which I Cor. 14 reveals to be unprofitable and not wise. At some stage we need to move into prophesying as a sign of maturity.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by keith4him

The apostle Paul described the will of the believer as key to the ability of the believer to have the ongoing ability to pray in tongues, he said "I will pray with my spirit and I will pray with my understanding also. I will sing with my spirit and I will sing with my understanding also." It is not a matter of emotion. It is a matter of the will. You can will to pray in your own language and you can will to pray in your heavenly language. Paul went on to say to the Christians in Corinth: The spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet, therefore let all things be done decently and in order." You can start and you can stop. You are in control.


You are entitled to your opinion about the Old Timers, I have a lot of respect for them and feel that much of their perspective we have lost.

Any "speaking in tongues" that is not THROUGH the Holy Ghost is not of God, and promotes humanism. I don't have time to discuss such an elementary thing with someone who should be well beyond this.

1Cr 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Philip Dugas a son-in-law of the late AD Urshan told us that when AD Urshan would pray for some people who struggled receiving the Holy Spirit, he would have them repeat the word "ABBA" until they felt encouraged/faith to begin to pray in Tongues without help. He felt that it was a unfamiliar/Biblical address to God as Daddy, but it sounded close enough like Tongues and would often be the catlyst for someone receving liberty to speak out in tongues. I wouldn't say that it was teaching tongues, but I think it to a interesting approach.

BIZARRE!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by keith4him

The apostle Paul described the will of the believer as key to the ability of the believer to have the ongoing ability to pray in tongues, he said "I will pray with my spirit and I will pray with my understanding also. I will sing with my spirit and I will sing with my understanding also." It is not a matter of emotion. It is a matter of the will. You can will to pray in your own language and you can will to pray in your heavenly language. Paul went on to say to the Christians in Corinth: The spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet, therefore let all things be done decently and in order." You can start and you can stop. You are in control.


You are entitled to your opinion about the Old Timers, I have a lot of respect for them and feel that much of their perspective we have lost.

Just to clarify. I don't think Keith is saying tongues is OF your while. Tongues is OF the Holy Spirit but it's YOUR will in allowing that to happen.

BTW I brought up the point of the spirit of the prophet etc....

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by keith4him

My issue with this type of activity is not praying in tongues by choice, but doing it in a large meeting which I Cor. 14 reveals to be unprofitable and not wise. At some stage we need to move into prophesying as a sign of maturity.

Agreed, that was my first concern, not to mention the wierd feeling I get when someone orders one all to speak in tongues...

[Rico]

Originally Posted by POWERUP

My bad Rico. I wasn't taught that indepth.

Hehehehe! Consider thyself edumacated!